[nuk3m]

The work that stays behind the il2 movie scenes... I've decided to reveal the work because of the comments like"a simple explosion looks bad"...........


Things are not as simple as they are....
Budau Isidor


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOalstiuMKw

[Erg./JG54_crazty]

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

[Clovis]

Yep, it's your opinion!
Because personally, I like these effects which make the movie original and very pleasant to watch! :wink:

[nuk3m]

Yep, it's your opinion!
Because personally, I like these effects which make the movie original and very pleasant to watch! :wink:

Thx...buddy!
ysy

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

instead of support i receve this..........this was my last movie...i quit
not kidding


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[LeBigTed]

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

instead of support i receve this..........this was my last movie...i quit
not kidding

Hi NUK3M,

I really want to congratulate you, because I saw your film and found it really effective and mervellous. You did a HUGE work, CONGRATULATION, and also THANKS FOR SHARING IT WITH US.

Personnaly I thing criticism is easier than realizing a film. Moreover, I really think that mny people are like me : they don't post many messages on the forum, but they are reading each new topic with attention...

As a conclusion : THANKS for your film !!!!!! :twisted:

[TUCKIE_JG52]

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

instead of support i receve this..........this was my last movie...i quit
not kidding

Don't quit. Yo do nice works. But from the moment you post a video, you'll receive positive and negative comments. It happens to all videomakers and we have to deal with it.

Some videos like to people. Others not. We put hundreds of work hours in a video, and it is not as seen as another one that is far more simple or has better music. My most seen video (4.000.000 visits) took me 15 minutes to edit. May I quit making videos? No, because I like the creative process itself, and in first place, every video has its own life when released. I see some of my old creations and I still surprise that I could create that.

Returning back to your video, I appreciate every new camera test you show, because I recognize the work behind it. Others not used in video editing don't appreciate it so much.

The negative part, like receiving no feedback, people repeatedly asking typical questions like "What music is this?" or "How do I capture a video?" or worse, really negative and destructive comments are part of the whole thing. You have to make videos that in first term you like. If those videos like to others, good. If not, well, will negative opinions make you dislike your own creation?

Hope you like the process and keep on making videos. I've just commented on some of your creations a constructive comment, I would like to see your videos at full screen on Youtube, with no black bars around. You have to make some render tests until you achieve this. I see you are using Sony Vegas, then you should use an HD Panoramic project and on every clip, "match output aspect ratio". Hope this will help.

And another tip... thats a personal thinking I got from experience. Even when you are plenty of satisfaction with a video you have on process, don't show it until it's completely finished, or if you show it, it's better if that short preview is a video in itself, and not an alone clip. I know that often, the most impulsive video creators want to show as quick as possible their work, but I'm personally trying to make evolution to relax... and show the video when it's ready, not before. One preview is ok, too many makes audience bore. We are not Spielbergs. People is not interested in the evolution of our videos. They want the final result and enjoy some minutes with it. We are just virtual pilots that made into amateur video creators. Not more.

[nuk3m]

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

instead of support i receve this..........this was my last movie...i quit
not kidding

Don't quit. Yo do nice works. But from the moment you post a video, you'll receive positive and negative comments. It happens to all videomakers and we have to deal with it.

Some videos like to people. Others not. We put hundreds of work hours in a video, and it is not as seen as another one that is far more simple or has better music. My most seen video (4.000.000 visits) took me 15 minutes to edit. May I quit making videos? No, because I like the creative process itself, and in first place, every video has its own life when released. I see some of my old creations and I still surprise that I could create that.

Returning back to your video, I appreciate every new camera test you show, because I recognize the work behind it. Others not used in video editing don't appreciate it so much.

The negative part, like receiving no feedback, people repeatedly asking typical questions like "What music is this?" or "How do I capture a video?" or worse, really negative and destructive comments are part of the whole thing. You have to make videos that in first term you like. If those videos like to others, good. If not, well, will negative opinions make you dislike your own creation?

Hope you like the process and keep on making videos. I've just commented on some of your creations a constructive comment, I would like to see your videos at full screen on Youtube, with no black bars around. You have to make some render tests until you achieve this. I see you are using Sony Vegas, then you should use an HD Panoramic project and on every clip, "match output aspect ratio". Hope this will help.

And another tip... thats a personal thinking I got from experience. Even when you are plenty of satisfaction with a video you have on process, don't show it until it's completely finished, or if you show it, it's better if that short preview is a video in itself, and not an alone clip. I know that often, the most impulsive video creators want to show as quick as possible their work, but I'm personally trying to make evolution to relax... and show the video when it's ready, not before. One preview is ok, too many makes audience bore. We are not Spielbergs. People is not interested in the evolution of our videos. They want the final result and enjoy some minutes with it. We are just virtual pilots that made into amateur video creators. Not more.

Thanks very much that u got some time to write 4 me....I've saw some videos that u made to i like them!but i've never comment them..as i wasn't having time very good montage and everything.
Regarding for what u said i'm contrary because i've putted so much effort and love and all my experience in doing this stuff and it isn't as appreciated as i expected to be only a few.I'm used to negative comments because we all learn from criticism..
My goal from the start in movie making i wanted to introduce a new concept of il2 movies a new world a new athmosphre as i've saw that movies from a year coming nobody is interested in doing them.
Maybe many of you think that i want to beat jafa or many more but is not that! I respect Jafa for his work.
This is the finished movies but i must add a few things that i can't now cuz i must leave in my country..i misure every second so if i've would continued i was out from the scheduile.

I use sony and adobe..togheter...i will try the tip u said about the borders thx for that...

I had some very good plans for the future new camera mods and special effects...but i think i will quit...i will leave some tutorials here how to make my style of movie making for people that are capable not like me.


Budau Isidor

[HolyGrail]

Hey Ysy ,
just like TUCKIE_JG52 and many others have said , never gave up !!
Just because some don't like our Ultimate Full 3D Smokes Fire , Oil Blotch Blood Splatter
mod and other mods , we didn't quit on making them and finishing them as much as
was possible to our knowledge and game engine limitations .
We wish that everyone would love our mods but that's just not the case , we're all different ,
all of us like different things in life and we just can't please everyone .
We're always trying to bring smile to others face and being nice to all even thou there is not
sometimes exactly supporting comment , there is no need to get bitter , angry , unhappy etc..
Relax , you live only once !!!
I want to be president someday and not everybody might like it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stay strong and keep it up buddy !!!!!!!

S! HG

[TUCKIE_JG52]

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

instead of support i receve this..........this was my last movie...i quit
not kidding

Don't quit. Yo do nice works. But from the moment you post a video, you'll receive positive and negative comments. It happens to all videomakers and we have to deal with it.

Some videos like to people. Others not. We put hundreds of work hours in a video, and it is not as seen as another one that is far more simple or has better music. My most seen video (4.000.000 visits) took me 15 minutes to edit. May I quit making videos? No, because I like the creative process itself, and in first place, every video has its own life when released. I see some of my old creations and I still surprise that I could create that.

Returning back to your video, I appreciate every new camera test you show, because I recognize the work behind it. Others not used in video editing don't appreciate it so much.

The negative part, like receiving no feedback, people repeatedly asking typical questions like "What music is this?" or "How do I capture a video?" or worse, really negative and destructive comments are part of the whole thing. You have to make videos that in first term you like. If those videos like to others, good. If not, well, will negative opinions make you dislike your own creation?

Hope you like the process and keep on making videos. I've just commented on some of your creations a constructive comment, I would like to see your videos at full screen on Youtube, with no black bars around. You have to make some render tests until you achieve this. I see you are using Sony Vegas, then you should use an HD Panoramic project and on every clip, "match output aspect ratio". Hope this will help.

And another tip... thats a personal thinking I got from experience. Even when you are plenty of satisfaction with a video you have on process, don't show it until it's completely finished, or if you show it, it's better if that short preview is a video in itself, and not an alone clip. I know that often, the most impulsive video creators want to show as quick as possible their work, but I'm personally trying to make evolution to relax... and show the video when it's ready, not before. One preview is ok, too many makes audience bore. We are not Spielbergs. People is not interested in the evolution of our videos. They want the final result and enjoy some minutes with it. We are just virtual pilots that made into amateur video creators. Not more.

Thanks very much that u got some time to write 4 me....I've saw some videos that u made to i like them!but i've never comment them..as i wasn't having time very good montage and everything.
Regarding for what u said i'm contrary because i've putted so much effort and love and all my experience in doing this stuff and it isn't as appreciated as i expected to be only a few.I'm used to negative comments because we all learn from criticism..
My goal from the start in movie making i wanted to introduce a new concept of il2 movies a new world a new athmosphre as i've saw that movies from a year coming nobody is interested in doing them.
Maybe many of you think that i want to beat jafa or many more but is not that! I respect Jafa for his work.
This is the finished movies but i must add a few things that i can't now cuz i must leave in my country..i misure every second so if i've would continued i was out from the scheduile.

I use sony and adobe..togheter...i will try the tip u said about the borders thx for that...

I had some very good plans for the future new camera mods and special effects...but i think i will quit...i will leave some tutorials here how to make my style of movie making for people that are capable not like me.


Budau Isidor

Well, like I think too there's no need to beat anyone, I also see -and that's a fact- that the more video making mods there are here, the more different styles there are. Your style is nice and good looking, but it's your style and there's no need to move into it, because it's yours. In my oppinion.

I have another style when recording IL-2, very irregular from simple videos to complex edited, but I'm planning a deep incursion into a new and different style. IL-2 is not the only thing I make videos from; I also record all aviation event that I can, no matter if real virtual, military, civil, or what. With so many subjects, I simply can't maintain a regular style.

And of course, the pioneers like Mysticpuma and big gurus had they own style, even taking into account that most of them were retired and their BIG merit was creating them without mods. We shall not forget that.

With all this I want to say, that the more variety there is, more interested people will be, undirectly more IL-2 will be sold, and all this will keep growing. I often remember to myself the ultimate consequence of virtual simulator video making. You can be creative, you can like planes and video making, you can like to fly or only see planes flying, but a well done video means influence, in the way that it's interest in the simulator, it's people thinking "I want to fly there", it's that people buying the simulator, and then, there's the return to us. We invested lots of hours creating. We contributed, more or less, in helping to sell the simulator. And finally, simulator goes better, there are new simulators on the way, new patches, new mods...

I know my thinking is a bit complicated like an hyperbolic cycle. Video makers don't think on those consequences, but those are totally positive.

[rossmum]

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

instead of support i receve this..........this was my last movie...i quit
not kidding

Don't take that attitude. To begin with, that's his own opinion. Personally I disagree with it; even with some excellent modding, Il-2's ingame effects aren't exactly movie material. If we all just threw our toys down and gave up at the first whiff of harsh criticism (warranted or otherwise), I seriously doubt any of the modders, moviemakers, screenshotters or skinners on this mod would be where we are now. Don't get offended, take a moment and think whether you can improve on that area or not. If you truly enjoy making movies, then go on making them.

Thanks for uploading this, by the way - always been curious as to how those effects worked.

[Erg./JG54_crazty]

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

instead of support i receve this..........this was my last movie...i quit
not kidding

Don't take that attitude. To begin with, that's his own opinion. Personally I disagree with it; even with some excellent modding, Il-2's ingame effects aren't exactly movie material. If we all just threw our toys down and gave up at the first whiff of harsh criticism (warranted or otherwise), I seriously doubt any of the modders, moviemakers, screenshotters or skinners on this mod would be where we are now. Don't get offended, take a moment and think whether you can improve on that area or not. If you truly enjoy making movies, then go on making them.

Thanks for uploading this, by the way - always been curious as to how those effects worked.

Dudes sorry to say but.... if you add fake effects in a game video like explosions,smoke and these explosions are only sony vegas effects that suxs because isnt the game that you play is something that you wish to have, that i want to say on my first post.. i have made a movie all with effects and its awsome and never published cause of that.. its fake nothing to do with you nuk3m i always support you on previous movies because you make something different and you always say good words about my movies but if i have something that bothering me i always want to say thats me and sorry if my negative opinion on that movie makes you want to quit thats stupid keep it up but i chalenge you to say something about Jafa movies he never add video effects like explosions etc and for me he is the best of the best ever on IL2 movies with out all that...,sorry for my bad English.... some times i want to say something but i cant write it so well.

~S crazy

[nuk3m]

Sorry to say your work is good but the effects suxs just use il2 smoke and explosion effects from the game, all that addons effects made the movie "heavy" and hard to watch.. my opinion.. :/

instead of support i receve this..........this was my last movie...i quit
not kidding

Don't take that attitude. To begin with, that's his own opinion. Personally I disagree with it; even with some excellent modding, Il-2's ingame effects aren't exactly movie material. If we all just threw our toys down and gave up at the first whiff of harsh criticism (warranted or otherwise), I seriously doubt any of the modders, moviemakers, screenshotters or skinners on this mod would be where we are now. Don't get offended, take a moment and think whether you can improve on that area or not. If you truly enjoy making movies, then go on making them.

Thanks for uploading this, by the way - always been curious as to how those effects worked.

Dudes sorry to say but.... if you add fake effects in a game video like explosions,smoke and these explosions are only sony vegas effects that suxs because isnt the game that you play is something that you wish to have, that i want to say on my first post.. i have made a movie all with effects and its awsome and never published cause of that.. its fake nothing to do with you nuk3m i always support you on previous movies because you make something different and you always say good words about my movies but if i have something that bothering me i always want to say thats me and sorry if my negative opinion on that movie makes you want to quit thats stupid keep it up but i chalenge you to say something about Jafa movies he never add video effects like explosions etc and for me he is the best of the best ever on IL2 movies with out all that...,sorry for my bad English.... some times i want to say something but i cant write it so well.

~S crazy

ARe u "my six from youtube? anyhow they are not sony vegas effects that is adobe after effects a quit complicated program for one who just started i know i will laugh but if u bellieve me i didntn't knew how to save the videos!then i've discovered that u must render them bla bla bla...yeah in fact i've said earlier that i don't want to beat jafa i respect him read up....i like to his job however he left me comment once where he told me that he liked one my movies.so..i was allready happy with that...and again like i've said earlier my goal from the start wasn't to be oooo the thug guy he makes special effects...no is not that i've wanted only to bring il2 movie making on the next level...is like how were made movies without mod.....and the thing gone beyond the mods...Anyhow to be onest yes i've got offenced by you cuz u said it sux...not even i don't know a most kind word like "i think..that " hmmm it's to different hmmm it makes the movie look bad

ysy

Hey Ysy ,
just like TUCKIE_JG52 and many others have said , never gave up !!
Just because some don't like our Ultimate Full 3D Smokes Fire , Oil Blotch Blood Splatter
mod and other mods , we didn't quit on making them and finishing them as much as
was possible to our knowledge and game engine limitations .
We wish that everyone would love our mods but that's just not the case , we're all different ,
all of us like different things in life and we just can't please everyone .
We're always trying to bring smile to others face and being nice to all even thou there is not
sometimes exactly supporting comment , there is no need to get bitter , angry , unhappy etc..
Relax , you live only once !!!
I want to be president someday and not everybody might like it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stay strong and keep it up buddy !!!!!!!

S! HG

Thx buddy very much! it cheel me up!i wanted to tell u i have many friends from slovakia i'm learning slovakian now...
ahoj!: i've read you message no problem buddy!you supported me like nobody did so....



thx again---ysy

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[nuk3m]

I'm so sorry! Moggy/moderated/ i was used that why in other forums will never happen again
Budau Isidor

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

nae problem, mate. Im just starting to condense double posts i come across into single posts. It's not a big problem, don't worry about it -- just try not to is all.

[Friendly_flyer]

Cool! I like the effects!