Precision High Level Bombing
#1

~S~

I have a question and I hope that Fireball or someone can help me with this issue that I've come across today. After reading another similar thread on the subject and having downloaded the manual for High Level Bombing authored by [HVY] Iron, I want to have the ability to be able to bomb from high level with precision and be able to read my Hud display in increments of "1" instead of increments of "50" for the sake of using my Bomb Sight Table II and hitting targets manually with precision.


I downloaded and installed into my JSGME Mod folder the following Mods and activate those mods before I fly using HSFX 4.1. Those are the following;

A. HUDConfig_V 1

B. Bomb Bay Doors Plus




When I look at my "conf.ini" file within my IL-2 folder, I have the following information displayed in text.


VideoSetupId=3
Water=1
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetUnits

[Mods]
SpeedbarTAS=1
SpeedbarUnits=2
SpeedbarSpdKMH=1
SpeedbarSpdMPH=1
SpeedbarSpdKnots=1
SpeedbarAltMeters=1
SpeedbarAltFeet=1
HUDGauges=3


Based on the above, what am I missing or what needs to be changed or edited to in order to see my altitude in feet read in increments of "1" instead of "50" ?

I do not have the "Hot Key Mod" within my JSGME Mod folder. Is this necessary if I have the Bomb Bay Doors Plus mod already in place ? Any tips would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
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#2

It would be nice if autopilot worked in multiplayer mode so the bombader wouldn't also have to fly the aircraft.

Or a separate player position just for the bombader.
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#3

First, Open the HUDConfig_V 1 folder and create a folder inside called 'Files'.
Next move all the original HUDConfig files, subfolders to the 'Files' folder.
Now take the HUDConfig folder and move it to the JSGME Mods folder.
Next, open up the JSGME program and activate the HUD mod by moving it from the left to the right. That will activate the mod.

That will take care of the Hudconfig not working.

As far as the bomber not flying by itself, it does.
Setup a key in the controls section for 'Level Stabilizer'. (Not Level Autopilot)

You will also need to ensure you have keys setup for the following commands:
- Bombsight Elevation increase.
- Bombsight Elevation decrease.

*** Only used in the Automatic Mode ***
- Bombsight Speed increase.
- Bombsight Speed decrease.
- Bombsight Altitude increase.
- Bombsight Altitude decrease.

Finally, make sure you have a key for the bomb bay doors.
It is setup to use the 'Engine Power 10%' key. So whatever key you have assigned to that function will open the doors.


That should be it.

Though I fly through the valley of death, I will fear no evil.....
For I am the meanest SOB in the valley!

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#4

~S~

BINGO !!! That fixed the problem. I followed the steps and activated the Mod via the switcher. There was a slight conflict with the Zuti mod version that I had enabled, 1.01 but once In game, I looked at my HUD and it was reading properly at that point in increments of "1". I cycled through the HUD several times and found the IAS as well as the TAS for all units of measure.

Many thanks Jinxx !!! I do appreciate the help. Now to practice using the Bomb Sight Table II.


Hooah !

Big Grin
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#5

The conflict is NORMAL. Ignore it.
Bottom line is, you MUST activate the Hud Config LAST.

Though I fly through the valley of death, I will fear no evil.....
For I am the meanest SOB in the valley!

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#6

~S~ Harper
Here is the link for the Norden Bombsight. You will find this useful
if you are flying the USAAF Heavy Bombers. It replaces the game
default bombsight which is really based on the german bombsight
and disappears when you do any quick moves. However with the
Norden Bomsight Mod it always stays in sight even if you make
any quick moves or adjustments. Here is the link:
(The link is inoperative)
Also there is another Mod called Bombsight Table_2 which is
a very helper when you are doing High Level Daylight Precision
bombing. Here is the link to the Bombsight Table_2:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php? ... ils&id=317

I think this will be a very big help for you. If you need help setting it up
just PM me and be glad to help you.
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#7

burns Wrote:It would be nice if autopilot worked in multiplayer mode so the bombader wouldn't also have to fly the aircraft.

Or a separate player position just for the bombader.

Use level stabilizer and trip the rudder to keep her straight mate Smile
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#8

~S~

Thanks everyone. I'm pretty much dialed in now based on what I've learned this evening through experimentation from the manual. From altitude, if the bombs don't hit them, the frag surely will.

Big Grin
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#9

Dear All,
I have just released the BombAssist Speedbar and HUD MOD:

[Image: BSAssist1.jpg]

It offers you all the functions of the original Fireball's MOD but the help for the BombSight makes irrelevant other parallel programs.

You can see the full details and the download available here:

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3597.0.html

Regards,

Pablo
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#10

~S~ Pablo,

Can you use this Mod online with say HSFX 4.1 or with UP 2.0M ?
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#11

{HVY-E}Jinxx Wrote:First, Open the HUDConfig_V 1 folder and create a folder inside called 'Files'.
Next move all the original HUDConfig files, subfolders to the 'Files' folder.
Now take the HUDConfig folder and move it to the JSGME Mods folder.
Next, open up the JSGME program and activate the HUD mod by moving it from the left to the right. That will activate the mod.

That will take care of the Hudconfig not working.

As far as the bomber not flying by itself, it does.
Setup a key in the controls section for 'Level Stabilizer'. (Not Level Autopilot)

You will also need to ensure you have keys setup for the following commands:
- Bombsight Elevation increase.
- Bombsight Elevation decrease.

*** Only used in the Automatic Mode ***
- Bombsight Speed increase.
- Bombsight Speed decrease.
- Bombsight Altitude increase.
- Bombsight Altitude decrease.

Finally, make sure you have a key for the bomb bay doors.
It is setup to use the 'Engine Power 10%' key. So whatever key you have assigned to that function will open the doors.


That should be it.
Question, I have these two mod installed (BombBayDoors_plus_ZP_WeaponStart and 00_HUDConfigPAL). I'm using HSFX 4.1 with Zuti DS 1.01, also have HUDConfig_v1 install and -dashed out. Here's the problem, when I try to use HudConfigPal, I must dash out the Bombbay Dopors Plus and Hud v1 and change my Zuti to 1.1 or my game will lock-up. If on the other hand I dash out the bombbay doors and the Hud v1 and us Zuti 1.1, I can get the bombsight to work but only if I use Zuti 1.1, using 1.01 locks my game up. Also when using the Bombbay Doors Plus by it self I can not get external veiws ingame but once I disable this mod everything works. So is there a fix for not being able to use Zuti 1.01 and bombbay doors Plus and HudconfigPal together? Thanks TC
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#12

DBG_Kabayo Wrote:~S~ Harper
Here is the link for the Norden Bombsight. You will find this useful
if you are flying the USAAF Heavy Bombers. It replaces the game
default bombsight which is really based on the german bombsight
and disappears when you do any quick moves. However with the
Norden Bomsight Mod it always stays in sight even if you make
any quick moves or adjustments. Here is the link:
(The link is inoperative)
Also there is another Mod called Bombsight Table_2 which is
a very helper when you are doing High Level Daylight Precision
bombing. Here is the link to the Bombsight Table_2:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php? ... ils&id=317

I think this will be a very big help for you. If you need help setting it up
just PM me and be glad to help you.
I had the Norden in my install before HSFX but is it compatible with HSFX 4.1 and the Zuti Mods? Thanks TC
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#13

Quote:(The link is inoperative)
Where can I find Norden Bombsight Mod?
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#14

~S~
Yes the Norden Bombsight works with HSFX4.1 and 4.11.
darkwingduck you can dl the Nerden Bombsight mod at:
http://dedicatedbombergroup.org
You will find it under the Down Load section.
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#15

too-cool Wrote:
{HVY-E}Jinxx Wrote:First, Open the HUDConfig_V 1 folder and create a folder inside called 'Files'.
Next move all the original HUDConfig files, subfolders to the 'Files' folder.
Now take the HUDConfig folder and move it to the JSGME Mods folder.
Next, open up the JSGME program and activate the HUD mod by moving it from the left to the right. That will activate the mod.

That will take care of the Hudconfig not working.

As far as the bomber not flying by itself, it does.
Setup a key in the controls section for 'Level Stabilizer'. (Not Level Autopilot)

You will also need to ensure you have keys setup for the following commands:
- Bombsight Elevation increase.
- Bombsight Elevation decrease.

*** Only used in the Automatic Mode ***
- Bombsight Speed increase.
- Bombsight Speed decrease.
- Bombsight Altitude increase.
- Bombsight Altitude decrease.

Finally, make sure you have a key for the bomb bay doors.
It is setup to use the 'Engine Power 10%' key. So whatever key you have assigned to that function will open the doors.


That should be it.
Question, I have these two mod installed (BombBayDoors_plus_ZP_WeaponStart and 00_HUDConfigPAL). I'm using HSFX 4.1 with Zuti DS 1.01, also have HUDConfig_v1 install and -dashed out. Here's the problem, when I try to use HudConfigPal, I must dash out the Bombbay Dopors Plus and Hud v1 and change my Zuti to 1.1 or my game will lock-up. If on the other hand I dash out the bombbay doors and the Hud v1 and us Zuti 1.1, I can get the bombsight to work but only if I use Zuti 1.1, using 1.01 locks my game up. Also when using the Bombbay Doors Plus by it self I can not get external veiws ingame but once I disable this mod everything works. So is there a fix for not being able to use Zuti 1.01 and bombbay doors Plus and HudconfigPal together? Thanks TC

Did you get your problem fixed?
The main thing I see wrong here is that you're using a lot of duplicate mods.
You don't need the bomb bay doors mod (It's built into HSFX).
If you're using Hudconfig Pal, you don't need Hudconfig v1
Try using Zuti 1.12.

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