19.04.2010, 13:05
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Is this plagiarism?
19.04.2010, 13:30
It depends on if the video or film is copyrighted.Even if they are I'm not sure just pulling something like the fire effects from a explosion or smoke from a fire would be an infringement.One way to circumvent any problems is to find out who may own the copyright on any video or film you may use and give that said person credit.
19.04.2010, 13:47
Actually, I can't see how you can get into trouble using this type of material. I wouldn't worry about that of I were you. I mean, using it for making special effects for a MOD??? I can't see this as either any financial or artistic infringement.
19.04.2010, 14:03
AAAH the don't worry about it guys,they don't worry about it until there in court with a multimillion dollar lawsuit against them.Yeah that's the way to go.Don't worry about it! http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org/res ... ine_video/
19.04.2010, 14:30
Surely the individual films in the video are from different sources....do you see what I'm saying 8)
19.04.2010, 15:13
I know this is not the point of this thread, but still RIP.
19.04.2010, 15:24
To quote the link:
"we find that judges return again and again to two key questions:
* Did the unlicensed use "transform" the material taken from the copyrighted work by using it for a different purpose than that of the original, or did it just repeat the work for the same intent and value as the original?
* Was the material taken appropriate in kind and amount, considering the nature of the copyrighted work and of the use?
Both questions touch on, among other things, the question of whether the use will cause excessive economic harm to the copyright owner.
If the answers to these two questions are "yes," a court is likely to find a use fair. Because that is true, such a use is unlikely to be challenged in the first place."
Please cite one case similar to this one that has even resulted in a "cease and desist"-letter? (Not to mention million-dollars blah blah.)
"we find that judges return again and again to two key questions:
* Did the unlicensed use "transform" the material taken from the copyrighted work by using it for a different purpose than that of the original, or did it just repeat the work for the same intent and value as the original?
* Was the material taken appropriate in kind and amount, considering the nature of the copyrighted work and of the use?
Both questions touch on, among other things, the question of whether the use will cause excessive economic harm to the copyright owner.
If the answers to these two questions are "yes," a court is likely to find a use fair. Because that is true, such a use is unlikely to be challenged in the first place."
Please cite one case similar to this one that has even resulted in a "cease and desist"-letter? (Not to mention million-dollars blah blah.)
19.04.2010, 15:36
It could be i guess, but then the expansion of the material is not same as trying to pass the idea or material as your own.
Legally, there are also rules for sampling music which i think legally works to the same degree where you can use a predefined number of seconds or signature notes with out the need for permission unless it is a trademark phrase or slogan.
Its also polite to give credit where credit is deserved, and though not legally binded to do so, you might have more friends in the art world if you did.
When you go to the store and look at how many spatchulas there are. I could take the cheapest plastic one, and add a rubber grip and make it in a different color. It would still legally be considered my design.
By the way, the next person to say "grabbing at straws" owes me 20 bucks.
Legally, there are also rules for sampling music which i think legally works to the same degree where you can use a predefined number of seconds or signature notes with out the need for permission unless it is a trademark phrase or slogan.
Its also polite to give credit where credit is deserved, and though not legally binded to do so, you might have more friends in the art world if you did.
When you go to the store and look at how many spatchulas there are. I could take the cheapest plastic one, and add a rubber grip and make it in a different color. It would still legally be considered my design.
By the way, the next person to say "grabbing at straws" owes me 20 bucks.
19.04.2010, 15:49
Ironically, if the owners of these videos view this topics and hold any copyright, you've kinda shot yourself in the foot by posting this topic 
19.04.2010, 18:05
okay thanks I think my feet will be leaky, the result deserves it. 
I think my feet will be leaky, the result deserves it.
20.04.2010, 05:32
Guys, I'm not into copyright n stuff at all, to be honest, I don't understand what's the problem with using these videos...I mean these are NOT achievments of any kind, just accidentally shot videos...how could possibly a material like this be copyrighted ??? (don't bite my head off )
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20.04.2010, 12:06
As pistitom says these images are not of anyones creation, nobody created these as special effects they are shot video where as if you so much as combine a few musical notes then you can copyright it, in this case the entire movie can be copyrighted as a creation but the events and content in the movie cannot if that makes any sence as the events are real and were shot at random so lets suppose two people shot the same event who owns the copyright? the answer is they both own the copyright to there own movies if they have applied but not to the events within the movies. Also many of these images are of what people have sent into news stations such as ABC or BBC television and the films have been purchased for a fee to the guy who shot the film, these news agencies dont copyright every scrap of film that is sent to them because its expensive and they serve their purpose very quickly. Another thing, if you found this film on utube and it was copyrighted film then the copyright has already been breached unless the people who own the origanal footage posted the film...... very doubtfull...... i think you'll be ok with this, i'm an artist and have dealt with copyrights and i can't see a problem. For instance i can take a piece of somebodies graphic art and use it as long as i don't portray a direct copy, you will not be making a direct film copy but a special effect of the film and not on camera but proberly using graphics tools.
20.04.2010, 12:56
I'd say go for it! To be exaclty sure you could add some lines to the README -file.
20.04.2010, 14:37
You won't get done for pagarism :roll: See ziggy's post 
See ziggy's post
20.04.2010, 16:51
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