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IL-2 Guide for Computers, Benchmarking, Optimizing, Tweaking

ALLIA29 Wrote:If today with computers so powerful that we have in comparison to 8 years and previously worked well and it might not work well now? that is what I will not take it never...or is that never worked well il-2?
made no sense whatsoever to me... then again i failed english last year Smile

RadPig94 Wrote:there's a e-book guide for overclocking, the guy has years of experience and has videos too, mind if i share?


Hi, Radpig

Overclocking requires a good level of knowledge about computer systems, in my humble opinion.

Though my laptop is overclocked with extra cooling that I added, I personally do not get into the details of overclocking in this website because there are so many things that could be done wrong. Damage could be expensive.

I do not encourage posting it, but especially not in my topic here - thank you for asking.



Fireskull Smile

ALLIA29 Wrote:If today with computers so powerful that we have in comparison to 8 years and previously worked well and it might not work well now? that is what I will not take it never...or is that never worked well il-2?


ALLIA29, hello pal

If you want to send a Private Message of this to me in Spanish, I will understand it. My Spanish reading is adequate (adecuado).





Fireskull Smile

ALLIA29 Wrote:If today with computers so powerful that we have in comparison to 8 years and previously worked well and it might not work well now? that is what I will not take it never...or is that never worked well il-2?
me di cuenta de que tienen dificultad en Inglés, puede utilizar Google Translate para ayudarte

http://translate.google.com/#es|en|

RadPig94 Wrote:
ALLIA29 Wrote:If today with computers so powerful that we have in comparison to 8 years and previously worked well and it might not work well now? that is what I will not take it never...or is that never worked well il-2?
me di cuenta de que tienen dificultad en Inglés, puede utilizar Google Translate para ayudarte

http://translate.google.com/#es|en|


Radpig,

Please let's keep the English sections to be English and the Spanish sections are for Spanish.



Fireskull Smile

I am still looking for someone to donate screenshots of ATI / AMD Control Panel for this IL-2 optimizing guide.


Any help please? :mrgreen:





Fireskull Smile

Hello Fireskull.
Here are the screenshots of the Control Panel of my old ATI Radeon X1650.

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Thank you, ton414

The images are useful for me to understand ATI/AMD issues.

I need images in English,too.





Fireskull Smile

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Taking screenshots of Nvidia Control Panel sections now.,

Standard and Advanced.

S!

Hi, guys


I have been sooooo busy - sorry for the delay.

What is needed would be graphics settings such as Anti-aliasing, Anisotropic filtering and so forth. I don't care about the monitor settings and the like.





Fireskull Smile

Fireskull- I can't thank you enough for really pushing nHancer --I would have never thought it would help so much...and creating this masterpiece of tweaking.

nHancer 2.5.9 does not open with the new nVidia drivers, so here is the fix if not already stated somewhere else.

NOTES TO Nvidia card owners with nhancer not launching:


http://www.simforums.com/forums/fsx-and ... 36586.html

Download and install Nvidia Inspector v1.932:

http://download.orbmu2k.de/download.php?id=51


Nvidia Inspector v1.932 menu: (*this image shows my incorrect setting for antialiasing mode. Should be "enhanced" as shown at bottom of post)

[Image: 2dt3mf6.jpg]

Con't:

[Image: dm340n.jpg]




THANKS for the education...Your advice helped me +20FPS!


Also, I thought I would share the results of some testing in hopes of helping anyone else or if you'd like to comment on an imporovement possibility.
You can see all the settings I was able to test and learned alot for a newbie benchmarker.

Setup:


i7930 @2.8Ghz
GIGABYTE 460 GTX 1GB x 2 GPU Clock 715 MHZ
Corsair 12GB
1920 x 1200
60Hz Refresh rate 24"

*****

Black Death:

Core testing with VideoSetUpId=17 + AFR_2 SLI **

2010-11-20 20:48:22 - il2fb
Frames: 7002 - Time: 149869ms - Avg: 46.721 - Min: 19 - Max: 105 ProcessAffinity Mask=2
2010-11-20 20:58:39 - il2fb
Frames: 7279 - Time: 156095ms - Avg: 46.632 - Min: 19 - Max: 104 Cores 2+3 (ProcessAffinity Mask=12)
2010-11-20 21:11:23 - il2fb
Frames: 7001 - Time: 150468ms - Avg: 46.528 - Min: 19 - Max: 104 Cores 2 + 3 + 4

Result: Using 2 and 3 cores showed no difference on my computer.

Changed to VideoSetUpId=3. Keep ProcessAffinity Mask=2. V Sync ON **

2010-11-20 21:17:52 - il2fb
Frames: 7232 - Time: 149207ms - Avg: 48.470 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 VideoSetUpId=3
2010-11-20 21:28:18 - il2fb
Frames: 7318 - Time: 150774ms - Avg: 48.536 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 + Test of AA AFR_FALLBACK_3 setting
2010-11-20 21:41:06 - il2fb
Frames: 5845 - Time: 148560ms - Avg: 39.344 - Min: 16 - Max: 100 + Test of Threading ON
2010-11-20 21:49:08 - il2fb
Frames: 7287 - Time: 150046ms - Avg: 48.565 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 + Test of Threading OFF - Same result as AUTO

Result: VideoSetUpId=3 shows slight improvement over VideoSetUpId=17 and Threading should stay OFF

Vertical Sync OFF "for helping stutters and Benchmarking. (Vertical Sync ON with Optimization and High Quality Image)" **

2010-11-20 21:56:30 - il2fb
Frames: 7244 - Time: 149225ms - Avg: 48.544 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 ProcessAffinity Mask=2 V sync OFF VideoSetUpId=3
2010-11-20 22:20:26 - il2fb
Frames: 7279 - Time: 150002ms - Avg: 48.526 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 ProcessAffinity Mask=2 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4

Result: V Sync ON or V sync OFF appears to show no difference. Ill keep it ON

Turn SLI OFF **

2010-11-20 22:27:21 - il2fb
Frames: 7818 - Time: 151242ms - Avg: 51.692 - Min: 22 - Max: 114 ProcessAffinity Mask=2 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 Force 1 card
2010-11-21 09:28:39 - il2fb
Frames: 669 - Time: 19896ms - Avg: 33.625 - Min: 21 - Max: 52 (TEST:SLI AA MODE ENABLED)

Back to SLI SFR_2 ... Anisotropic Filtering: sets distance visual acuity **

2010-11-21 09:18:05 - il2fb
Frames: 8581 - Time: 150606ms - Avg: 56.976 - Min: 24 - Max: 114 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 8xAF
2010-11-21 09:30:53 - il2fb
Frames: 8185 - Time: 150319ms - Avg: 54.451 - Min: 24 - Max: 113 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 16xAF
2010-11-21 09:37:46 - il2fb
Frames: 9453 - Time: 158807ms - Avg: 59.525 - Min: 20 - Max: 114 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 4xAF

Result: I think I'm happy with the way 4xAF looks and will take the boost

Anti-Aliasing Setting: jaggies **AFR_2 SLI changed to just AFR SLI:

2010-11-21 10:23:10 - il2fb
Frames: 11206 - Time: 152233ms - Avg: 73.611 - Min: 24 - Max: 167 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 4xAF [4x Multisampling]
2010-11-21 10:28:52 - il2fb
Frames: 10901 - Time: 151543ms - Avg: 71.933 - Min: 23 - Max: 166 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 4xAF [16x [16xCSAA (4 color + 12 cv samples)
2010-11-21 10:55:33 - il2fb
Frames: 11025 - Time: 152364ms - Avg: 72.360 - Min: 25 - Max: 168 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=3 AFR SLI 4xAF [16x [16xCSAA (4 color + 12 cv samples)

Result= Choose AFR SLI over AFR_2 SLI

Result: VideoSetUpId=3 edges out over VideoSetUpId=4. Im sticking with 16x, although i have no idea what the breakdown means.


**All early testing used Anti-aliasing Setting: 8xS [Combined: 1x2 SS + 4x MS] and AFR_2 SLI which caused lower framerates

I think I still have some reading to do: My frame rate still drops up to 30 points in game.
EDIT: redko is to blame for this one. Damn you redko! HAHA. 100 planes and 20 ships on Okinawa is a real tester

Ill have to reread to improve further..I wasn't able to change my profile for the il2set.exe. I'm not sure I understand that portion bc of the nhancer differences.

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EDIT: ....ABOVE image is my "final" setup settings and below are the end results on Black Death :

"Enhance the Application setting " + 8x AA

2010-11-22 21:05:19 - il2fb
Frames: 11533 - Time: 149920ms - Avg: 76.928 - Min: 24 - Max: 172

katdog5 Wrote:Fireskull- I can't thank you enough for really pushing nHancer --I would have never thought it would help so much...and creating this masterpiece of tweaking.

nHancer 2.5.9 does not open with the new nVidia drivers, so here is the fix if not already stated somewhere else.

NOTES TO Nvidia card owners with nhancer not launching:


http://www.simforums.com/forums/fsx-and ... 36586.html

Download and install Nvidia Inspector v1.932:

http://download.orbmu2k.de/download.php?id=51


Nvidia Inspector v1.932 menu:

[Image: 2dt3mf6.jpg]

Con't:

[Image: dm340n.jpg]




THANKS for the education...Your advice helped me +20FPS!


Also, I thought I would share the results of some testing in hopes of helping anyone else or if you'd like to comment on an imporovement possibility.
You can see all the settings I was able to test and learned alot for a newbie benchmarker.

Setup:


i7930 @2.8Ghz
GIGABYTE 460 GTX 1GB x 2 GPU Clock 715 MHZ
Corsair 12GB
1920 x 1200
60Hz Refresh rate 24"

*****

Black Death:

Core testing with VideoSetUpId=17 + AFR_2 SLI **

2010-11-20 20:48:22 - il2fb
Frames: 7002 - Time: 149869ms - Avg: 46.721 - Min: 19 - Max: 105 ProcessAffinity Mask=2
2010-11-20 20:58:39 - il2fb
Frames: 7279 - Time: 156095ms - Avg: 46.632 - Min: 19 - Max: 104 Cores 2+3 (ProcessAffinity Mask=12)
2010-11-20 21:11:23 - il2fb
Frames: 7001 - Time: 150468ms - Avg: 46.528 - Min: 19 - Max: 104 Cores 2 + 3 + 4

Result: Using 2 and 3 cores showed no difference on my computer.

Changed to VideoSetUpId=3. Keep ProcessAffinity Mask=2. V Sync ON **

2010-11-20 21:17:52 - il2fb
Frames: 7232 - Time: 149207ms - Avg: 48.470 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 VideoSetUpId=3
2010-11-20 21:28:18 - il2fb
Frames: 7318 - Time: 150774ms - Avg: 48.536 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 + Test of AA AFR_FALLBACK_3 setting
2010-11-20 21:41:06 - il2fb
Frames: 5845 - Time: 148560ms - Avg: 39.344 - Min: 16 - Max: 100 + Test of Threading ON
2010-11-20 21:49:08 - il2fb
Frames: 7287 - Time: 150046ms - Avg: 48.565 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 + Test of Threading OFF - Same result as AUTO

Result: VideoSetUpId=3 shows slight improvement over VideoSetUpId=17 and Threading should stay OFF

Vertical Sync OFF "for helping stutters and Benchmarking. (Vertical Sync ON with Optimization and High Quality Image)" **

2010-11-20 21:56:30 - il2fb
Frames: 7244 - Time: 149225ms - Avg: 48.544 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 ProcessAffinity Mask=2 V sync OFF VideoSetUpId=3
2010-11-20 22:20:26 - il2fb
Frames: 7279 - Time: 150002ms - Avg: 48.526 - Min: 21 - Max: 108 ProcessAffinity Mask=2 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4

Result: V Sync ON or V sync OFF appears to show no difference. Ill keep it ON

Turn SLI OFF **

2010-11-20 22:27:21 - il2fb
Frames: 7818 - Time: 151242ms - Avg: 51.692 - Min: 22 - Max: 114 ProcessAffinity Mask=2 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 Force 1 card
2010-11-21 09:28:39 - il2fb
Frames: 669 - Time: 19896ms - Avg: 33.625 - Min: 21 - Max: 52 (TEST:SLI AA MODE ENABLED)

Back to SLI SFR_2 ... Anisotropic Filtering: sets distance visual acuity **

2010-11-21 09:18:05 - il2fb
Frames: 8581 - Time: 150606ms - Avg: 56.976 - Min: 24 - Max: 114 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 8xAF
2010-11-21 09:30:53 - il2fb
Frames: 8185 - Time: 150319ms - Avg: 54.451 - Min: 24 - Max: 113 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 16xAF
2010-11-21 09:37:46 - il2fb
Frames: 9453 - Time: 158807ms - Avg: 59.525 - Min: 20 - Max: 114 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 4xAF

Result: I think I'm happy with the way 4xAF looks and will take the boost

Anti-Aliasing Setting: jaggies **AFR_2 SLI changed to just AFR SLI:

2010-11-21 10:23:10 - il2fb
Frames: 11206 - Time: 152233ms - Avg: 73.611 - Min: 24 - Max: 167 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 4xAF [4x Multisampling]
2010-11-21 10:28:52 - il2fb
Frames: 10901 - Time: 151543ms - Avg: 71.933 - Min: 23 - Max: 166 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=4 AFR SLI 4xAF [16x [16xCSAA (4 color + 12 cv samples)
2010-11-21 10:55:33 - il2fb
Frames: 11025 - Time: 152364ms - Avg: 72.360 - Min: 25 - Max: 168 V Sync ON VideoSetUpId=3 AFR SLI 4xAF [16x [16xCSAA (4 color + 12 cv samples)

Result= Choose AFR SLI over AFR_2 SLI

Result: VideoSetUpId=3 edges out over VideoSetUpId=4. Im sticking with 16x, although i have no idea what the breakdown means.


**All early testing used Anti-aliasing Setting: 8xS [Combined: 1x2 SS + 4x MS] and AFR_2 SLI which caused lower framerates

I think I still have some reading to do: My frame rate still drops up to 30 points in game.
EDIT: redko is to blame for this one. Damn you redko! HAHA. 100 planes and 20 ships on Okinawa is a real tester

Ill have to reread to improve further..I wasn't able to change my profile for the il2set.exe. I'm not sure I understand that portion bc of the nhancer differences.




Thanks, katdog5


I will take a couple days or more to evaluate the issues. If it passes, then I will likely include your little guide into the main body of my tech topic here.






Fireskull Smile

Hey, KatDog


I watched your thread in this forum about cockpit tearing and glad to know you got it solved. The same solution was found by me in the past, but I let you experiment so you could learn the system. I knew that you would find the solution because you love this sort of thing. Fun, isn't it?

If you could do me a little favor and help other people, too: Once you get everything at the best that you think can be done ( give it some time ), can you please post a screen capture of your Inspector, NVIDIA Control Panel IL-2 settings, and hHancer, too? I will look at it and if it looks very good, then I would like to use the images in my IL-2 quality guide, with your permission of course.




Fireskull Smile

Fireskull Wrote:Hey, KatDog


I watched your thread in this forum about cockpit tearing and glad to know you got it solved. The same solution was found by me in the past, but I let you experiment so you could learn the system. I knew that you would find the solution because you love this sort of thing. Fun, isn't it?

If you could do me a little favor and help other people, too: Once you get everything at the best that you think can be done ( give it some time ), can you please post a screen capture of your Inspector, NVIDIA Control Panel IL-2 settings, and hHancer, too? I will look at it and if it looks very good, then I would like to use the images in my IL-2 quality guide, with your permission of course.

Fireskull Smile

Certainly. Lots of fun to understand how it all works. I suppose with a little more time I'll tweak further. Its hard to believe this game still kicks the ass of 2 460s on certain maps and situations. Especially the epic tc_hawaii, populated; then add fraps...

If you check my post above I did add my latest config with Inspector....keep in mind that nHancer doesn't load with the latest 400 series drivers (according to what i read) so Im using Inspector instead. So it would just be Inspector + Control panel. Hopefully I can find another big fps breakthrough. There are so many options in there its insane.
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