Helldiver & Judy
#1

Just wondering if these 2 divebombers might be in development , they both would be a fine addition to the Pacific arena ....




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#2

Moved to MODS Discussion Section 4.10m
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I think I remember the Helldiver somewhere, I am not to sure about the Judy.

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#3

The Helldiver was in the works for Pacific Fighters, but due to the Northrop Grumman copyright lawsuit any content that was being work on was dropped. Even if it wasn't related to Northrop Grumman in any way shape or form.

But since then Daidalos Team have taken over and they have stated that the Pacific theatre is under developed in the game and they will / are looking at adding new content for the Pacific theatre at a future date, but they will not add or incorporate any thing to do with Northrop Grumman. That said the Helldiver is made by Curtiss so there is hope Big Grin.

As for the Judy I never heard of it being worked on for Pacific Fighters or by any Modders, maybe Daidalos Team will do it if they think its important enough :?:.

Pics of Helldiver back in the Pacific Fighter days Big Grin

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#4

A dream would come true! Tongue
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#5

Yeh Team Daidalos wouldn't wanna cause any trouble with NG, they could shut them down. But for now I guess we could just say NG is selfish.
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madcat Wrote:The Helldiver was in the works for Pacific Fighters, but due to the Northrop Grumman copyright lawsuit any content that was being work on was dropped. Even if it wasn't related to Northrop Grumman in any way shape or form.]

lawyers are %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull]
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Frogman2 Wrote:lawyers are assholes...

lol depends who side there on, but they are the only creatures on earth that can get blood out of a stone :lol:

Joking aside the only trouble with the NG lawsuit is it could effect and will deficiently make them think at C1:Maddox what to include or add to any future game like "IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover" Sad

Any way on a lighter note, thanks to TD we should see this in an official patch soon... ish (2 weeks) Big Grin

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madcat Wrote:The Helldiver was in the works for Pacific Fighters, but due to the Northrop Grumman copyright lawsuit any content that was being work on was dropped. Even if it wasn't related to Northrop Grumman in any way shape or form.

But since then Daidalos Team have taken over and they have stated that the Pacific theatre is under developed in the game and they will / are looking at adding new content for the Pacific theatre at a future date, but they will not add or incorporate any thing to do with Northrop Grumman. That said the Helldiver is made by Curtiss so there is hope Big Grin.

As for the Judy I never heard of it being worked on for Pacific Fighters or by any Modders, maybe Daidalos Team will do it if they think its important enough :?:.

Pics of Helldiver back in the Pacific Fighter days Big Grin

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This lawsuit is %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull]. It's total %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull] that they would stifle this guy's creativity because they featured one of their planes. I think they should be proud that it's in there, those stupid greedy lawyers make me sick. I wish that they could include planes in the game without BEING sued, but sadly, it is not gonna happen. The lawyers are greedy people working for greedy interests of a company that wishes to start a pissing contest whenever it likes. Always gotta think of some lame excuse. How about a P-61 Black Widow? Oh wait, THAT's NORTHROP, their stupid lawyers and their damn overpaid fat cats can't bother to see that other people are making their work shine. If only we could counteract that lawsuit by Northrop Grumman. Stop this legal %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull] because I am sick of it. When did they ever care? Their F6F Hellcat is in the game, so is the Avenger ALL GRUMMAN designs.

Sorry for the rant, but I am so sick of hypocrisy and zealous holier-than-thou applications of copyright law. Copyright law has gone to hell in the last few years. It used to be in flight sims that planes could be included without lawsuits. Now we have to worry about fat cat lawyers THAT RUIN HISTORICAL ACCURACY at every turn thanks to their BIG fat paychecks. I am so sick of this shit.
We should help defend them, not stand by and let these assholes ruin our games!

THIS IS %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull]!
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#9

There would probably have been no suit if UBI had approached them for permission. Instead, they deliberately and carelessly went ahead and used the name without permission. In a case like this, if N-G had not sued, they would have lost all rights to the names. Other users, such as plastic model makers, ask for and pay for permission to use the name, which is N-G's property.
It's very unfortunate it turned out this way, but protecting your property from theft is not %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull].
BTW, there's probably no problem with using the name if no one is making money from it, such as mods created and provided free.
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Murph Wrote:There would probably have been no suit if UBI had approached them for permission. Instead, they deliberately and carelessly went ahead and used the name without permission. In a case like this, if N-G had not sued, they would have lost all rights to the names. Other users, such as plastic model makers, ask for and pay for permission to use the name, which is N-G's property.
It's very unfortunate it turned out this way, but protecting your property from theft is not %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull].
BTW, there's probably no problem with using the name if no one is making money from it, such as mods created and provided free.

Well, no it's not, but DESIGNATIONS of airplane should have expired 65 years ago. These were government designations of the airplanes 65 years ago. HOW COME THEY DID NOT SUE UBI FOR THE F6F HELLCAT OR THE TBF AVENGER planes? How come? How come? This is such a big bunch of %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull]. hypocrisy!

Their fat cat lawyers and their overpaid lawsuits to make a name for themselves! HAH! Boeing has yet to sue Team Daidalos for its use of the B-17 Flying Fortress or the B-29 Superfortress! WHERE THE HELL IS BOEING'S TEAM OF "LAWYERS" and big fat cat lawyers!
Protecting property is not %#*@# ! [Expletive removed by Fireskull].
no, BUT THE WAY THEY GO ABOUT IT IS! That is the problem. Crickets are chirping!
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Frogman2, Patchman123, and Murph


I removed the expletives from your posts. We do no allow such words at this website which is open to all ages and cultures.

Please respect the international standard in this regard here for public websites.

I do not want to see such bad language anymore from you guys.



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