[sc1949]

First, since going to Vista x64, I haven't ever been able to use ALT+TAB to swap to other programs, as I could with XP Pro. It just drops me to desktop.

Now it has started dropping me out to desktop, as though I pressed ALT+TAB, after I go to change from one map to another in QMB and Single missions, also when a campaign calls a video up, and when a campaign calls for a new map, it does the same thing, too.

When it drops you out, it makes all the noises as if the mission is starting IE engine sound, and the icon is in the taskbar, but you need to press ALT+TAB to get the mouse to focus, then iL2 is gone from taskbar. You then need to reload iL2 again to play another mission. This doesn't happen if you just hit "refly" or change aircraft, but not the map. Same with single missions, you can replay over and over, and other missions so long as the map doesn't change.

Any ideas about this?

Thanks in advance.

[Pirate]

That is a strange problem. My advice would be to try a reinstall andsee if that helps... aslo the only other thing I can think of is if you have dual monitors or similar? I've seen some games acting strangely iwth dual monitors when they are both enabled. Hope you get your problem sorted out.

[sc1949]

Hi Pirate,

No, don't have dual monitors, also tried a clean install, was OK, so probably a mod I've mucked up, will have to try installing mods one by one when I have time, don't have UI1.1 (too big for me), but on a good note, have now installed Ranwers new ME410 cockpits, they're brilliant, and also got FW-189 cockpit working too!

Thanks for your help.

[JAMF]

Could you give [CTRL+ESC] a try, as a replacement for [ALT+TAB]?

[sc1949]

Sorry I was so long answering, tried that just now, and same thing, it just drops me to desktop, but with the "Start" menu opened. Does that give any ideas? Been trying to figure this out during week, have everything going good except this map changing bit and the ALT+TAB, if I could sort the map bit I could live with that, as I even got the Faireybattle going, which wouldn't a week or so ago, but a later "buttons" file did the trick. Aside from that I can't get UI1,1, too big for dialup, unless I can get my son to d/l and put on dvd, but might wait till next version is out. Thanks for your help.

[sc1949]

Since writing the original entry concerning this, I decided to investigate a bit more thoroughly.
I have made a complete reinstall of 4.07 (which is from the dvd 1946), and only updated to 4.08m, this wouldn't start, just showed a spinning cd icon, so I then used the il2fb.exe file from 4.08 to 4.09 switcher (4.33 mb), then ran game with one quick mission (on Okinawa map), then ran a second quick mission on a different map (Crimea), and it crashed to desktop still.
A warning message came up, that the firewall was blocking il2.exe, so I had it changed to unblock. (Had to ALT+TAB between windows, as mouse was absent till I got focus on the alert message).

Apart from this, there are no mods installed, and this didn't always happen to me. I have been updating Vista x64 since I got it, and can only think something has been changed during that time, with the updates. As i said originally, I have never been able to ALT+TAB from iL2, and cannot take screengrabs (noticed someone else had this problem too). The thing I find strange is that noone else seems to have these problems, surely I can't be the only one with Vista x64 copping these issues?

Also just noticed, the 4.07 install just shows the spinning cd icon, and doesn't play, with the dvd in the drive, as well.

Also noticed a lot of missions now freezing up, near end of mission, or when you hit apply, forcing a re-run of mission. Notice that graphics get "jittery" at this time. Memory is 6gb ddr3, so shouldn't be the cause.

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First, since going to Vista x64, I haven't ever been able to use ALT+TAB to swap to other programs, while playing iL2 Sturmovik, as it just drops me out to desktop, as though the program had ended, also after I go to change from one map to another in QMB and Single missions, also when a campaign calls a video up, or a new map.

When it drops you out, it makes all the noises as if the mission is starting IE engine sound, and the icon is in the taskbar, but you need to press ALT+TAB to get the mouse to focus, then iL2 is gone from taskbar. You then need to reload iL2 again to play another mission. This doesn't happen if you just hit "refly" or change aircraft, but cannot change the map. Same with single missions, you can replay same mission over and over, and other missions so long as the map doesn't change. This is getting to be very annoying, as you can imagine.

Any ideas about this, and maybe a solution to fix it? My Vista version has been upgraded by Windows Update to latest updates as of 4--5-2009.

Thanks in advance.

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Here is content of one of many files that are generated each time you ALT+TAB out of iL2, all versions. they have the name "hs_err_pid1760", each with a unique number, not all 1760.

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An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM.
Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION occurred at PC=0x0
Function name=(N/A)
Library=(N/A)

NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error
just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible
reason and solutions.



Current Java thread:
at com.maddox.opengl.GLContext.SwapBuffers(Native Method)
at com.maddox.opengl.GLContext.swapBuffers(GLContext.java:189)
at com.maddox.il2.engine.Renders.doPaint(Renders.java:424)
at com.maddox.il2.engine.Renders.paint(Renders.java:253)
at com.maddox.il2.engine.RendersTicker.msgTimeOut(Renders.java:632)
at com.maddox.rts.MsgTimeOut.invokeListener(MsgTimeOut.java:73)
at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1134)
at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:100)
at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:436)
at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)

Dynamic libraries:
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0x76B70000 - 0x76C80000 C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll
0x75720000 - 0x757F0000 C:\Windows\syswow64\USER32.dll
0x76620000 - 0x766B0000 C:\Windows\syswow64\GDI32.dll
0x76300000 - 0x763C6000 C:\Windows\syswow64\ADVAPI32.dll
0x76930000 - 0x76A20000 C:\Windows\syswow64\RPCRT4.dll
0x75290000 - 0x752F0000 C:\Windows\syswow64\Secur32.dll
0x74CD0000 - 0x74D02000 C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll
0x764A0000 - 0x7654A000 C:\Windows\syswow64\msvcrt.dll
0x76A20000 - 0x76B64000 C:\Windows\syswow64\ole32.dll
0x76CB0000 - 0x76D3D000 C:\Windows\syswow64\OLEAUT32.dll
0x74C90000 - 0x74CC9000 C:\Windows\system32\OLEACC.dll
0x75350000 - 0x753B0000 C:\Windows\syswow64\IMM32.dll
0x763D0000 - 0x76498000 C:\Windows\syswow64\MSCTF.dll
0x75140000 - 0x75164000 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT.dll
0x74160000 - 0x7417E000 C:\Windows\system32\ShimEng.dll
0x740F0000 - 0x7411C000 C:\Windows\system32\apphelp.dll
0x73CB0000 - 0x73EC3000 C:\Windows\AppPatch\AcGenral.DLL
0x75460000 - 0x754B8000 C:\Windows\syswow64\SHLWAPI.dll
0x74070000 - 0x740F0000 C:\Windows\system32\UxTheme.dll
0x74360000 - 0x743D5000 C:\Windows\system32\NETAPI32.dll
0x767F0000 - 0x767F7000 C:\Windows\syswow64\PSAPI.DLL
0x74180000 - 0x74194000 C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll
0x74C80000 - 0x74C88000 C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll
0x757F0000 - 0x76300000 C:\Windows\syswow64\SHELL32.dll
0x74060000 - 0x74065000 C:\Windows\system32\sfc.dll
0x74050000 - 0x7405D000 C:\Windows\system32\sfc_os.DLL
0x754C0000 - 0x7564A000 C:\Windows\syswow64\SETUPAPI.dll
0x751E0000 - 0x751FE000 C:\Windows\system32\USERENV.dll
0x74040000 - 0x7404C000 C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll
0x76800000 - 0x76929000 C:\Windows\syswow64\urlmon.dll
0x75300000 - 0x75345000 C:\Windows\syswow64\iertutil.dll
0x74020000 - 0x74034000 C:\Windows\system32\MPR.dll
0x753C0000 - 0x753C9000 C:\Windows\syswow64\LPK.DLL
0x76770000 - 0x767ED000 C:\Windows\syswow64\USP10.dll
0x743E0000 - 0x7457E000 C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.6001.18000_none_5cdbaa5a083979cc\comctl32.dll
0x6D420000 - 0x6D4EF000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll
0x6D220000 - 0x6D227000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\bin\hpi.dll
0x6D3B0000 - 0x6D3BD000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\bin\verify.dll
0x6D250000 - 0x6D266000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\bin\java.dll
0x6D3C0000 - 0x6D3CD000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\bin\zip.dll
0x028F0000 - 0x02932000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\wrapper.dll
0x10000000 - 0x1000A000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\pathfind.dll
0x10010000 - 0x12EEA000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\il2_corep4.dll
0x7C340000 - 0x7C396000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\MSVCR71.dll
0x02880000 - 0x028A3000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\jgl.dll
0x02BF0000 - 0x02C2A000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\il2_usgs2.dll
0x76C80000 - 0x76CAD000 C:\Windows\syswow64\WS2_32.dll
0x752F0000 - 0x752F6000 C:\Windows\syswow64\NSI.dll
0x0F2E0000 - 0x0F351000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\mg_snd_sse.dll
0x75170000 - 0x751A3000 C:\Windows\system32\dinput8.dll
0x6DF10000 - 0x6DF19000 C:\Windows\system32\HID.DLL
0x74B60000 - 0x74B8D000 C:\Windows\system32\WINTRUST.dll
0x74260000 - 0x74351000 C:\Windows\system32\CRYPT32.dll
0x74240000 - 0x74252000 C:\Windows\system32\MSASN1.dll
0x76740000 - 0x76769000 C:\Windows\syswow64\imagehlp.dll
0x6D340000 - 0x6D348000 C:\Games\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\bin\net.dll
0x74C10000 - 0x74C17000 C:\Windows\system32\WSOCK32.dll
0x73440000 - 0x7344F000 C:\Windows\system32\NLAapi.dll
0x74220000 - 0x74239000 C:\Windows\system32\IPHLPAPI.DLL
0x741E0000 - 0x74215000 C:\Windows\system32\dhcpcsvc.DLL
0x74B90000 - 0x74BBC000 C:\Windows\system32\DNSAPI.dll
0x74C00000 - 0x74C07000 C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL
0x741A0000 - 0x741C1000 C:\Windows\system32\dhcpcsvc6.DLL
0x730C0000 - 0x730CF000 C:\Windows\system32\napinsp.dll
0x73040000 - 0x73052000 C:\Windows\system32\pnrpnsp.dll
0x74120000 - 0x7415B000 C:\Windows\System32\mswsock.dll
0x730B0000 - 0x730B8000 C:\Windows\System32\winrnr.dll
0x76550000 - 0x7659A000 C:\Windows\syswow64\WLDAP32.dll
0x72E90000 - 0x72F5B000 C:\Windows\system32\Opengl32.dll
0x73210000 - 0x73233000 C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll
0x705F0000 - 0x706D5000 C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll
0x71ED0000 - 0x71ED6000 C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll
0x751C0000 - 0x751C8000 C:\Windows\system32\atkogl32.dll
0x69030000 - 0x69B64000 C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll
0x0DF00000 - 0x0DF21000 C:\Windows\system32\atiadlxy.dll
0x74DA0000 - 0x74E3B000 C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.3053_none_d08d7bba442a9b36\MSVCR80.dll
0x6C9F0000 - 0x6CF2D000 C:\Windows\system32\atkosdx32.dll
0x0F640000 - 0x0F647000 C:\Program Files (x86)\NaturalPoint\TrackIR4\NPClient.dll
0x72270000 - 0x722E0000 C:\Windows\system32\dsound.dll
0x73160000 - 0x7317A000 C:\Windows\system32\POWRPROF.dll
0x766B0000 - 0x76734000 C:\Windows\syswow64\CLBCatQ.DLL
0x72FE0000 - 0x73007000 C:\Windows\System32\MMDevApi.dll
0x73010000 - 0x73031000 C:\Windows\system32\AUDIOSES.DLL
0x72F70000 - 0x72FD6000 C:\Windows\system32\audioeng.dll
0x72F60000 - 0x72F67000 C:\Windows\system32\AVRT.dll
0x741D0000 - 0x741D5000 C:\Windows\System32\wshtcpip.dll
0x722E0000 - 0x723BC000 C:\Windows\syswow64\dbghelp.dll

Local Time = Sun Apr 19 14:00:33 2009
Elapsed Time = 19
#
# The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot™ Client VM (1.3.1-b24 compiled mode)
#

[sc1949]

Turned out this was caused by Catalyst 9.3 driver. 9.6 install fixed all these issues, was found when had difficulty installing DCS:Blackshark, and was because of help on their forum. Hope it saves others some troubles.