[Fireskull]

Good day, my friends

Okay, this is where we can improve our awareness of the principles of success. What I really want to see revealed to the community are the universal principles of success, especially the eternal ones.


A couple questions:

1) What does the word success mean to you?

2) How should we define being a successful person?


Now that the above questions have run their course, let's get to the principles of success.

Principles of Success

Give us a word or one sentence that everyone can agree is a universal, eternal principle of success:



Love is the greatest motivator for action.

Strive for the benefit of everyone involved.

A mistake can reveal things and open new opportunities.

[caldrail]

I feel strongly that flight simulation enthusiasts are among those with the most natural talent in the world.


Albert Einstein revealed the revolutionary concepts of space, time, and dimensions. He considered time to be the forth dimension.


Flight simulation users have a talent for traveling in virtual reality using all four dimensions. Added to this is the patience to do it successfully. The flight simlulation communities have skills to use math, geometry, computer graphics, video/media production, and computer programming to name just a few of the many talents.

Some do. Most of us just get shot down a lot

I begin with a couple questions:

1) What does the word success mean to you?

2) How should we define being a successful person?

Success is a variable concept. We each have our own definition of it. In order for the word to have any real meaning, it must be connected with a target or objective.

For some that means something very ethereal or unspecific, such as getting wealthy. I know one gentleman of pensionable age who is utterly convinced of his own success because he makes enough money in private investments to live reasonably comfortably. He hasn't changed the world. He hasn't started any profitable enterprise. He never won a medal in warfare. No-one outside of his tiny number of human contacts have any idea who he is. His neighbours called him "Mr Brown" because he always wore trousers of that colour.

On the other hand, we have the likes of Julius Caesar. In Spain he dicovered a statue to Alexander the Great and burst into tears. His aides, naturally a little concerned about his welfare, asked him what was wrong. Why are you crying?

"Because," He told them, "At my age this man had conquered the world, and I have done nothing."

Notice that the working class of european nations are often very full of themselves. The reason is that their targets in life are usually set so low that 'success' for them is easily attainable.

[Fireskull]

Ah! This idea of relative success is interesting-very interesting.

If success is relative, then how can a person be sure that one is not fooling oneself?

[Guest]

Success relies solely on one's perception of it.

[Fireskull]

Success relies solely on one's perception of it.

This seems good-it really does.


What about people who view themselves as successful but they are bad? Can we really say that every individual can decide independantly about one's self regarding success?

For example, a person might belong to a social movement which harms people but the member views himself as a success in it and in life.

Is this view of one's self as successful actually reliable or is it very dangerous?

[Guest]

I can see what you mean; they may have got succesful through unscrupulous ways? In that case, it is our perception that influences our opinion. So we may feel that they are successful, or we may feel that they aren't as their success was not achieved 'fairly'. That persons opinion of their success may be all that matters to him/her though and so that may be the way they gauge it. We have our opinion of them, but they may still be successfull, regardless of their motives for getting there.

It is a hard question! But I still think that the idea of success relies on your own opinion. I may not get a good mark in a test and so not be successful, but I may not be good at that test, so personally I have achieved something. In which case, I have succeeded!

But going back to the bad person, it's all about the idea of success. For example, to succeed in life, they may believe they need to make as much money as possible, but somone else may believe being fit and healthy with a loving family is all they need to succeed.

[Fireskull]

That's good.


Given that there are endless opinions, can we recognize at least some standards toward developing success which are true for everyone?

[Guest]

Yes we can The main problem with the internet is the fact that we may not have a virtual conscience. I may say something bad to you but not feel bad about it, because I don't know you and can't see you. So the problem here is that, going back to this bad person, they may measure their success as aiming to annoy others.

In that case you just get your virtual foot, and stick it up their arse Or in other words, get rid of them as quick as possible if it continues.

[Fireskull]

Can we agree that behavior which inspires progress while not actually doing anything to offend anyone is universal, successful behavior? (Given the many examples in history that no matter what you do or say, someone is going to hate you. We must ignore that to keep making good decisions.)

[Lefty Hartnett]

I think of myself as successful because my work is meaningful to me.

[Fireskull]

I think of myself as successful because my work is meaningful to me.

That sounds good. I believe it can be true.

Some examples of people who might feel that their work is meaningful include Morticians, Sewer Cleaners, Gangsters, Gossip Columnists, Assassins, and others.

Therefore, I think that there must be much more that determines true success.

What do you think about this aspect of it?

[RadPig94]

Success is something that defines a person better than i am *sigh* :roll:

[Guest]

If you think you are successful, that is all that matters. Do not let other people convince you otherwise; life is too short to follow others like sheep.

[RadPig94]

is it so bad? bahahaha lol. i think success is being at least top 100 best at something, i'm not best of anything not even being lazy :)

[Fireskull]

I honestly do not think that success can be defined by competition. If that were true, then almost all of us would be failures.

There is an unemployed homeless person that I know in Kalamazoo ( no-he is not me :lol: ). Anyway, he is one of the kindest persons that I have ever met. He does volunteer work while he looks for employment. He treats everyone with respect and gives of what little he has as well as helping people with his hands and encouragement.

In no way is he any competition to anyone, yet to me he is highly successful because he is doing well under the circumstances.