List of First Generation jet fighters that arnt in the game
#1

This is a list of 1st generation fighters.

Australia:

CAC Sabre:

[Image: SabreV3a.jpg]

Canada:

Avro CF-100 Canuck:

[Image: CF-100-2.jpg]

Canadair Sabre:

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France:

Dassault Ouragan:

[Image: Gouragan.jpg]

Dassault Mystère I:

[Image: Dassault%2BM.D.452%2BMyst%C3%A8re%2B1.JPG]

Dassault Mystère II:

[Image: Dassault_Mystere_II.jpg]

Dassault Mystère III:

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Dassault Mystère IV:

[Image: Gmystere4-2.jpg]

People's Republic of China:

Shenyang J-2:

[Image: 300px-Shenyang_J-5.jpg]

Shenyang J-4:

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Shenyang J-5:

[Image: J5-i.jpg]

Soviet Union:

Yakovlev Yak-17:

[Image: Yak-17.jpg]

Yakovlev Yak-25 Flashlight:

[Image: Yak25R_1.jpg]

Lavochkin La-15 Fantail:

[Image: La-15-4.jpg]

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 Fagot: Status: Finished mod http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3445.0.html

[Image: Mig-15.JPG]

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17 Fresco: Status: Finished mod http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3445.0.html

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Yakovlev Yak-23 Flora:

[Image: yak-23_1.jpg]

Sweden:

Saab 21R:

[Image: saab_j21r.jpg]

Saab Tunnan:

[Image: saab_tunnan.jpg]

Saab Lansen:

[Image: DCP01288%20SAAB%20A32%20Lansen%20N4432V%...nt%20l.jpg]

United Kingdom:

Gloster Meteor: Status: WIP mod http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/...ter+Meteor

[Image: meteor31024.jpg]

De Havilland Vampire: Status: WIP mod http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/...nd+Vampire

[Image: vampire1800.jpg]

Hawker Sea Hawk:

[Image: hawker-sea-hawk-fga.6.jpg]

Supermarine Attacker:

[Image: attackerfr_7.jpg]

De Havilland Venom:

[Image: DSC_9197.jpg]

De Havilland Sea Venom:

[Image: sea_venom_deck.jpg]

United States:

Bell P-59 Airacomet:

[Image: bell-p-59-airacomet.jpg]

McDonnell FH Phantom:

[Image: Fh1.phantom.750pix.jpg]

Ryan Aeronautical FR Fireball:

[Image: fr1_01.jpg]

Northrop F-89 Scorpion:

[Image: Northrop-F89-Scorpion-Jet-Interceptor-Title.jpg]

Lockheed F-94 Starfire:

[Image: F-94_STARFIRE.bmp]

Douglas F3D Skyknight:

[Image: douglas_f3d-2_skyknight.jpg]

Republic F-84 Thunderjet: Status: Beta mod http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/...Thunderjet

[Image: republic-f84_2.jpg]

Republic F-84F Thunderstreak: Status: Beta mod http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/...nderstreak

[Image: f84fjulydon.jpg]

North American F-86 Sabre: Status: Finished mod http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3445.0.html

[Image: north-american-f-86-sabre-1.jpg]

McDonnell F2H Banshee: Status: WIP mod http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/...2H+Banshee

[Image: Banshee.jpg]

McDonnell F3H Demon:

[Image: demon_infl.jpg]

Cancelled Fighters

Argentina:

I.Ae. 27 Pulqui I:

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FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II:

[Image: IAE-33-03.jpg]

France:

Aérocentre NC 1080:

[Image: nc1080_200.jpg]

Italy

Aerfer Ariete:

[Image: ambrosini_ariete.jpg]

Aerfer Leone:

[Image: Sagittario.jpg]

Aerfer Sagittario 2:

[Image: DSC05879.JPG]

Germany

Heinkel He 280:

[Image: he280ah_2.jpg]

Messerschmitt Me P.1101:

[Image: NAJN8JTZ6otmcazrzeQgm4Zlo1_500.jpg]

Messerschmitt Me P.1106:

[Image: Me%20P%201106%201.jpg]

Japan

Nakajima Kikka:

[Image: 113.jpg]

Nakajima Ki-201:

[Image: 2199656916_42ed0fbc0b.jpg]


Are there mods for these?
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#2

Mig 15 and 17 are already in the game. What is the difference between the sabres you listed?
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#3

Quote:Mig 15 and 17 are already in the game.

I too don't know why he puts them on the list when they are availible as mods, not like 1C is going to put them in.

Quote:What is the difference between the sabres you listed?

Quote from wikipedia "The F-86F was re-designed and built by the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC)."
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#4

Verhängnis Wrote:
Quote:Mig 15 and 17 are already in the game.

I too don't know why he puts them on the list when they are availible as mods, not like 1C is going to put them in.

Quote:What is the difference between the sabres you listed?

Quote from wikipedia "The F-86F was re-designed and built by the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC)."
K, thanks.
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#5

KG64_Cnopicilin Wrote:What is the difference between the sabres you listed?
Basically the engines.
The original F-86 had the General Electric J-47 engine builtin, except for the F-86H which was equipped with the General Electric J73 including Afterburner.
The Canadair Sabres used the generally more powerful Avro Canada Orenda engine beginning from version Mk.3 on. These are known to be the fastest Sabres around.
The CAC Sabres uses the even more powerful Rolls-Royce Avon R.A.7, which resulted in a re-design of the fuselage as the Avon was shorter, wider and lighter than the General Electric J47, and different armament (2x30mm cannon instead of the M3 guns).
Even though the Avon was the most powerful engine for Sabres (except for the Afterburner equipped F-86H), the CAC versions didn't exceed the other's performance due to the necessary re-design of the fuselage.

Best regards - Mike
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#6

I'm happy they are not in the game except for Meteor and Vampire
IT'S WORLD WAR 2 SIMULATION NO ?
I think Jets of korean war or other KILL the game
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#7

BJ=Bomber Wrote:I'm happy they are not in the game except for Meteor and Vampire
IT'S WORLD WAR 2 SIMULATION NO ?
I think Jets of korean war or other KILL the game

so i take it when Canvas Knights is released, that you will not downloading it.
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#8

I love aviation in general, and am a HUGE Korean war fan, and am so looking forward to Canvas Knights and all Korean War addons. I have no idea why people get so anal about other eras?
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#9

Anthony817 Wrote:I love aviation in general, and am a HUGE Korean war fan, and am so looking forward to Canvas Knights and all Korean War addons. I have no idea why people get so anal about other eras?
1. Buy WW2 game
2. Add modern stuff
3. ??????
4. Profit!!!
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#10

How many times do we have to say this..."If you don't like it, don't download it"
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#11

OK, let's think it in this way:

You have 10 balls, and that's the maximum amount of the balls you can have,
5 of them are modern, 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
5 of them are ye olde, Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
If you want 7 modern,
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
You can only have 3 ye olde balls,
Smile Smile Smile

And the meaning of the thing is that more new->less old.

I am looking forward to the korean war jets, but not the 4th and 5th generation ones.
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#12

Here's my logic:

Are not the basic combat fighter-to-fighter techniques quite similar in a Sabre/Mig dog fight?
I mean, similar to a P-51/Bf-109 dog fight?

So, in terms of the avionics of the kinds of combat flying, I don't see a conflict.

Just my opinion.

Also-- I have to say--if some great guy built an F-4 Phantom, I would download it in a heart beat.
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#13

[Image: Gloster-Whittle-Jet-in-three-color-schemes.jpg]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_E.28/39

[Image: campinijet.jpg]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Campini_N.1

[Image: he_178_01.jpg]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_178

[Image: he280_V3_05.jpg]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_280

[Image: 800px-Avion_J-451MM_Str%C5%A1ljen_Slika3.JPG]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_451
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[quote="Radoye"][img]https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Gloster-E28/IMAGES/Gloster-Whittle-Jet-in-three-color-schemes.jpg[/img]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_E.28/39

[img]http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/campinijet.jpg[/img]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Campini_N.1

[img]http://greyfalcon.us/he_178_01.jpg[/img]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_178

[img]http://jpcolliat.free.fr/he280/images/he280_V3_05.jpg[/img]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_280

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Avion_J-451MM_Str%C5%A1ljen_Slika3.JPG/800px-Avion_J-451MM_Str%C5%A1ljen_Slika3.JPG[/img]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_451[/quote]

Those are Countries First Jet Aircraft/Experimentals and so they are not fighters.
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#15

Verhängnis Wrote:Those are Countries First Jet Aircraft/Experimentals and so they are not fighters.

Gloster-Whittle was a fighter, it had provisions for 4 x .303 Brownings.

He-280 was also a fighter.

Ikarus J-451MM was a fully equipped light attack aircraft.

These are no different than some of those already listed that didn't go beyond a handful of prototypes.
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