Who says that 1.2 & 4.09m will not work?
#31

Just spent last day and a half finishing a merge on top of a "dirty" UI 1.1 409b1m. I was able to keep all the goodies such as CanonUK new channel map, and new B-17, C-47, Storch and Fw 189 pits. On top of those I have all the 409 final A/C and all the UI 1.2 A/C. So far the only thing broken is 3 of the 4 P-47's are no longer flyable. It was a lot of work, especially getting the sounds sorted, but worth it. Having all the new A/C together, along with a QMB with 20 maps, is just too awesome to believe :!:
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#32

Does it matter if we put 1.2 on top of 4.09....or 4.09 on top of UI 1.2?
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#33

norm Wrote:i have gotten the 4.09 ac to appear in the list, but they do not appear during play and they are invisible in the arming screen. i am using sas buttons 2.21
What did you do to get them in the list?
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#34

fabianfred Wrote:Does it matter if we put 1.2 on top of 4.09....or 4.09 on top of UI 1.2?

UI 1.2 needs to be applied to a CLEAN UI 1.1 (or UI 1.1.1).

Aviar
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#35

Salty-Have got a completely fresh 4.09 install ( along with my "old" SAS Modded one that works .)Can I do this with it: add AAA 1.1 & 1.2,then convert it to SAS? I did this with the old one by using the SAS installer over it & then the newest SAS buttons. I hate to have too many various versions around,
but wonder if there is something in compatable about mixing them....
Is there any reasomn why I can't use the perfectly good Mapmods folder from old game to replace the new one? It would save a lot of time( now need to download all those new aircraft I already had on "old"SAS version. :?:
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#36

fabianfred Wrote:Does it matter if we put 1.2 on top of 4.09....or 4.09 on top of UI 1.2?
I don't think it really matters, as long as you end up with the correct files when you're done, and edit the ini files. I've seen instructions on the forum for both ways. If you already have additional mods in your 1.2, then that complicates things.

In any case, you will need the SAS buttons to make it work, as theirs is the only one that has everything in it.

What I did was start with a clean 4.09, then copied the MODS and Files folders from my clean 1.2 into it, added the il2fb.exe and wrapper.dll from 1.2, replaced the files.SFS with the Russian version (from the SAS website), edited all the ini files to add the 4.09 planes and loadouts, then put the SAS buttons in .../MODS/STD/gui/game/
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#37

As I wrote elsewhere (Typhoon troubles thread) this is my experience:
I DLed UI1.2 and then extracted ALL new planes (B-25, P-38, P-51&F-51, C-47A/B, BF109, F4U1 etc etc)
plus their common folders (they are easy to find comparing 1.1 & 1.2 MODS folder composition) and installed them manually
I have the last 409 version modded with SAS modactivator, and the 2.3 SAS buttons file,
and ALL the new planes I installed worked fine!!!

but when I read the thread about troubles with Typhoon, hmmmm....... I went to try the Typhoon in the QMB,
and the game crashed as soon as the mission loaded...
So I disabled all new 1.2 folders and deleted entries of new planes in air.ini and plane.ru and weapons.ru,
and now the Typhoon works again... (always with 2.3 SAS buttons, DLed here:
http://specialaircraftservice.com/unitedbuttons/ )

it's a conflict, but where...???
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#38

Dietz Wrote:Is there any reasomn why I can't use the perfectly good Mapmods folder from old game to replace the new one?
Then you will lose the new maps in 1.2. You should ADD to the new MapMods folder, anything you want from your old one that is not in the new one, and don't forget to edit the all.ini too.
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#39

fabianfred Wrote:Does it matter if we put 1.2 on top of 4.09....or 4.09 on top of UI 1.2?
Not for me!
I had installed the 409 on a 409b1+UI111+AddOns
then I installed the SAS 2.2
It was working perfectly (just a few fixes on the cyrillic BoE entry but that was all).
I was doubtful about installing UI1.2, but gave it a run: made a whole copy of the root directory on another disk, and just installed it there directly using the exe after switching it to the 409m1b plain version; not even upgrading the SAS I made a try, and it went up very smoothly!
Just to be sure I upgraded the SAS to the 2.3.
I still have the switcher showing up 409b1, but it really loads the 409m MOD or plain.... No trouble with any P47 or B25 or P51....
:wink:
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#40

...Here's whare I am...up the creek perhaps...Completely clean install of everything up to 1.2with patch...no problem...make a copy& save.Manually add all of 4.09 . Loading of game stops at 95%No SASMod ACT yet...what do do?
( have another copy of a clean working 4.09 with no Mods too...
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#41

Dietz Wrote:...Here's whare I am...up the creek perhaps...Completely clean install of everything up to 1.2with patch...no problem...make a copy& save.Manually add all of 4.09 . Loading of game stops at 95%No SASMod ACT yet...what do do?
( have another copy of a clean working 4.09 with no Mods too...
Try swapping your mg_snd.dll and mg_snd_sse.dll with the old ones from the U.I. 1.1, that seems to fix the 95% crash.
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#42

I was just thinking about that... :o
That got it working but sadly none of the 4.09 planes showed up at the party...do you think the latest SAS activator might work...?
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#43

Dietz Wrote:...none of the 4.09 planes showed up at the party...
You didn't say how you added the 4.09 content, but you need to edit the air.ini and add the 4.09 planes before they will show up in a modded game. But then you will also need the SAS buttons, or you will get a 60% CTD.

The SAS ModActivator for previously modded games will work, and gives you all the edits for the .ini files to copy and paste. Also included the SAS buttons.
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#44

Ahhh-that makes sense....where do I find the proper lines to add? I am very familiar with this process, but have no idea where the proper lines for STD folder are for the 4.09 planes...
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#45

Here's the whole shebang, copied and pasted from the SAS Modact:

Do a search of your MODS and FILES folders for all files of the .ini type (search for ".ini " )
And ammend the ones you find as per below.

If you dont find some, that is OK, your game will use its own.
Other changes to make concerns content of your i18n folder in STD (or in Files). We provide a folder in the mods folder fo this download with examples of these from 4.09m that you can use.

We provide the contents of those folders with this modact, and leave it to you to replace ones you did not edit in the past, or ammend those you have.
We did provide the new entries for weapons_ru and plane_ru properties below.

We will share others if appropriate as time goes.

New Lines to Add:


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air.ini


[AIR]




CW-21 air.CW_21 NOINFO du01 SUMMER
DXXI_DK air.DXXI_DK 1 NOINFO r01 SUMMER
DXXI_DU air.DXXI_DU 1 NOINFO du01 SUMMER
I-15bis air.I_15BIS 1 NOINFO r01 SUMMER
I-15bis_Skis air.I_15BIS_SKIS 1 NOINFO r01 WINTER
I-16type5 air.I_16TYPE5 1 NOINFO r01 SUMMER
I-16type5_SPB air.I_16TYPE5_SPB 1 NOINFO r01 SUMMER
I-16type5_Skis air.I_16TYPE5_SKIS 1 NOINFO r01 WINTER
I-16type6 air.I_16TYPE6 1 NOINFO r01 SUMMER
I-16type6_Skis air.I_16TYPE6_SKIS 1 NOINFO r01 WINTER

AviaB534 air.AVIA_B534 2 NOINFO g01 SUMMER

DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY air.DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY 2 NOINFO f01 WINTER
DXXI_SARJA3_LATE air.DXXI_SARJA3_LATE 2 NOINFO f01 SUMMER
DXXI_SARJA4 air.DXXI_SARJA4 2 NOINFO f01 SUMMER

G-55 air.G_55 2 NOINFO i01 SUMMER
G-55-Late air.G_55_Late 2 NOINFO i01 SUMMER

RE-2000 air.RE_2000 2 NOINFO i01 SUMMER
SM-79 air.SM79i 2 NOINFO i01 SUMMER
S-328 air.LetovS_328 2 NOINFO g01 SUMMER


Sarvanto_DXXI air.DXXI_SARJA3_SARVANTO 2 NOINFO



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chief.ini:
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Replace

[Trains.USSR_MBV2/AA]
com.maddox.il2.objects.trains.MBV2
com.maddox.il2.objects.trains.Platform4

with

[Trains.USSR_MBV2/AA]
com.maddox.il2.objects.trains.MBV2AA





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Stationary.ini:
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Add:

[StationaryPlanes]

CW_21 vehicles.planes.Plane$CW_21 1
DXXI_DK vehicles.planes.Plane$DXXI_DK 1
DXXI_DU vehicles.planes.Plane$DXXI_DU 1

I_15BIS vehicles.planes.Plane$I_15BIS 1
I_15BIS_SKIS vehicles.planes.Plane$I_15BIS_SKIS 1

I_16TYPE5 vehicles.planes.Plane$I_16TYPE5 1
I_16TYPE5_SKIS vehicles.planes.Plane$I_16TYPE5_SKIS 1
I_16TYPE6 vehicles.planes.Plane$I_16TYPE6 1
I_16TYPE6_SKIS vehicles.planes.Plane$I_16TYPE6_SKIS 1

AR_234B2 vehicles.planes.Plane$AR_234B2 2
AVIA_B534 vehicles.planes.Plane$AVIA_B534 2

DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY vehicles.planes.Plane$DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY 2
DXXI_SARJA3_LATE vehicles.planes.Plane$DXXI_SARJA3_LATE 2
DXXI_SARJA4 vehicles.planes.Plane$DXXI_SARJA4 2

G_55 vehicles.planes.Plane$G_55 2 /// 2

RE_2000 vehicles.planes.Plane$RE_2000 2
LetovS_328 vehicles.planes.Plane$LetovS_328 2
SM79i vehicles.planes.Plane$SM79i 2




technics.ini
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[RE_2000]
Description RE_2000
Icon Plane
Class air.RE_2000
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[SM79i]
Description SM79i
Icon Plane
Class air.SM79i
PanzerBodyFront 0.008

[AVIA_B534]
Description AVIA_B534
Icon Plane
Class air.AVIA_B534
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[LetovS_328]
Description LetovS_328
Icon Plane
Class air.LetovS_328
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[DXXI_DK]
Description DXXI_DK
Icon Plane
Class air.DXXI_DK
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[DXXI_DU]
Description DXXI_DU
Icon Plane
Class air.DXXI_DU
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY]
Description DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY
Icon Plane
Class air.DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[DXXI_SARJA3_LATE]
Description DXXI_SARJA3_LATE
Icon Plane
Class air.DXXI_SARJA3_LATE
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[DXXI_SARJA4]
Description DXXI_SARJA4
Icon Plane
Class air.DXXI_SARJA4
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[I_16TYPE5]
Description I_16TYPE5
Icon Plane
Class air.I_16TYPE5
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[I_16TYPE5_SKIS]
Description I_16TYPE5_SKIS
Icon Plane
Class air.I_16TYPE5_SKIS
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[I_16TYPE6]
Description I_16TYPE6
Icon Plane
Class air.I_16TYPE6
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[I_16TYPE6_SKIS]
Description I_16TYPE6_SKIS
Icon Plane
Class air.I_16TYPE6_SKIS
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[G_55]
Description G_55
Icon Plane
Class air.G_55
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[CW_21]
Description CW_21
Icon Plane
Class air.CW_21
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[I_15BIS]
Description I_15BIS
Icon Plane
Class air.I_15BIS
PanzerBodyFront 0.002

[I_15BIS_SKIS]
Description I_15BIS_SKIS
Icon Plane
Class air.I_15BIS_SKIS
PanzerBodyFront 0.002





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add to weapons_ru:


#####################################################################
# DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY
#####################################################################
DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY.default Default
DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY.AlternativeTracers R Cowling MG-Tracer only
DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY.none Empty

#####################################################################
# Sarvanto_DXXI
#####################################################################
Sarvanto_DXXI.default Default
Sarvanto_DXXI.AlternativeTracers R Cowling MG-Tracer only
Sarvanto_DXXI.none Empty


#####################################################################
# DXXI_SARJA3_LATE
#####################################################################
DXXI_SARJA3_LATE.default Default
DXXI_SARJA3_LATE.AlternativeTracers R Cowling MG-Tracer only
DXXI_SARJA3_LATE.none Empty

#####################################################################
# DXXI_SARJA4
#####################################################################
DXXI_SARJA4.default Default
DXXI_SARJA4.none Empty

#####################################################################
# DXXI_DK
#####################################################################
DXXI_DK.default Default
DXXI_DK.madsen 2x20mm Madsen Gunpods
DXXI_DK.none Empty

#####################################################################
# DXXI_DU
#####################################################################
DXXI_DU.default Default
DXXI_DU.none Empty

#####################################################################
# AviaB534
#####################################################################
AviaB534.default Default
AviaB534.none Empty
AviaB534.6*10kg 6x10 kg Bombs
AviaB534.4*20kg 4x20 kg Bombs

#####################################################################
# Fiat G.55
#####################################################################
G-55.default Default
G-55.none Empty

#####################################################################
# Fiat G.55 1.42 ATA
#####################################################################
G-55-Late.default Default
G-55-Late.none Empty

#####################################################################
# SM.79
#####################################################################
SM-79.default Default
SM-79.6x100_delay_drop 6x100 kg Bombs
SM-79.12x50_delay_drop 12x50 kg Bombs
SM-79.12x100_delay_drop 12x100 kg Bombs
SM-79.12xCassette 672x2 kg Bomblets
SM-79.5x250_delay_drop 5x250 kg Bombs
SM-79.2x500_delay_drop 2x500 kg Bombs
SM-79.1xLTW_Torp 1xType W 170/450 Torpedo
SM-79.none Empty

#####################################################################
# RE-2000
#####################################################################
RE-2000.default Default
RE-2000.2x100_Kg_Bombs 2x100 kg Bombs
RE-2000.4xCassette 88x2 kg Bomblets
RE-2000.none Empty

#####################################################################
# I-16type5
#####################################################################
I-16type5.default Default
I-16type5.2x50kg 2xFAB-50
I-16type5.2x100kg 2xFAB-100
I-16type5.PV-1 2xPV-1
I-16type5.none Empty

#####################################################################
# I-16type5_SPB
#####################################################################
I-16type5_SPB.default Default
I-16type5_SPB.2xFAB250 2xFAB-250
I-16type5_SPB.none Empty

#####################################################################
# I-16type5_Skis
#####################################################################
I-16type5_Skis.default Default
I-16type5_Skis.2x50kg 2xFAB-50
I-16type5_Skis.2x100kg 2xFAB-100
I-16type5_Skis.PV-1 2xPV-1
I-16type5_Skis.none Empty

#####################################################################
# I-16type6
#####################################################################
I-16type6.default Default
I-16type6.2x50kg 2xFAB-50
I-16type6.2x100kg 2xFAB-100
I-16type6.4xRS-82 4xRS-82
I-16type6.6xRS-82 6xRS-82
I-16type6.none Empty

#####################################################################
# I-16type6_Skis
#####################################################################
I-16type6_Skis.default Default
I-16type6_Skis.2x50kg 2xFAB-50
I-16type6_Skis.2x100kg 2xFAB-100
I-16type6_Skis.4xRS-82 4xRS-82
I-16type6_Skis.6xRS-82 6xRS-82
I-16type6_Skis.none Empty


#####################################################################
# S-328
#####################################################################
S-328.default Default
S-328.8*10kg 8x10 kg Bombs
S-328.4*20kg 4x20 kg Bombs
S-328.6*20kg 6x20 kg Bombs
S-328.2*20kg+6*10kg 2x20 + 6x10 kg Bombs
S-328.2*50kgCZ 2x50 kg Bombs (CZ)
S-328.1*100kgCZ 1x100 kg Bomb (CZ)
S-328.2*50kg 2x50 kg Bombs
S-328.1*100kg 1x100 kg Bomb
S-328.1*ParaFlare 1xParaflare
S-328.2*ParaFlare 2xParaflare
S-328.1*ParaFlare+2*20kg 1xParaflare + 2x20 kg Bombs
S-328.2*ParaFlare+6*10kg 2xParaflare + 6x10 kg Bombs
S-328.none Empty

#####################################################################
# CW-21
#####################################################################
CW-21.default Default
CW-21.none Empty

#####################################################################
# I-15bis
#####################################################################
I-15bis.default Default
I-15bis.4xAO10 4xAO-10
I-15bis.2xAO10_2xFAB50 2xAO-10 + 2xFAB-50
I-15bis.2xFAB50 2xFAB-50
I-15bis.4xRS82 4xRS-82
I-15bis.none Empty

#####################################################################
# I-15bis_Skis
#####################################################################
I-15bis_Skis.default Default
I-15bis_Skis.4xAO10 4xAO-10
I-15bis_Skis.2xAO10_2xFAB50 2xAO-10 + 2xFAB-50
I-15bis_Skis.2xFAB50 2xFAB-50
I-15bis_Skis.4xRS82 4xRS-82
I-15bis_Skis.none Empty



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Plane_ru:
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ChangeSadIf you want to)

P-36A-3 Hawk 75A-3, 1938
P-36A-4 Hawk 75A-4, 1938

Tu-2S Tu-2S, 1944

He-162A-2 He-162 A-2, 1945
Me-210Ca-1ZSTR Me-210Ca-1 Zerst\u00f6rer
MS-Morko M\u00f6rk\u00f6 Morane, 1944



Add:

Sarvanto_DXXI Sarvanto D.XXI
DXXI_DK D.XXI Danish, 1938
DXXI_DU D.XXI Dutch, 1938
DXXI_SARJA3_EARLY D.XXI sarja 3 Early, 1939
DXXI_SARJA3_LATE D.XXI sarja 3 Late, 1941
DXXI_SARJA4 D.XXI sarja 4, 1941
S-328 S-328-II, 1936
CW-21 CW-21B, 1940
I-15bis I-15bis, 1937
I-15bis_Skis I-15bis (skis), 1937
I-16type5 I-16 Type 5, 1935
I-16type5_SPB I-16 Type 5 (SPB), 1938
I-16type5_Skis I-16 Type 5 (skis), 1935
I-16type6 I-16 Type 6, 1937
I-16type6_Skis I-16 Type 6 (skis), 1937
G-55 G.55 Serie I, 1943
G-55-Late G.55 Serie I Late, 1944
AviaB534 B-534-IV, 1937
RE-2000 Re.2000, 1940
SM-79 SM.79, 1936





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Add to Regiments ini:
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under:

i01



356squadriglia
278squadriglia
279squadriglia
281squadriglia
193squadriglia
205squadriglia
256squadriglia
2CG-ANR-dr
2CG-ANR-gto
2CG-ANR-adb



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all.ini
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Replace


Slovakia Slovakia/load.ini
Slovakia_Online Slovakia/load_online.ini


with

Slovakia_summer Slovakia/load.ini
Slovakia_winter Slovakia/load_winter.ini
Slovakia_summer(online) Slovakia/load_online.ini
Slovakia_winter(online) Slovakia/load_winter_online.ini
MTO_Light MTO/load_light.ini



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