[TinyTim]

Nice work there TinyTim. I think you have hit on the real nature of the bar problem, from what I have read of the FW nose down attitude. However, it does mean that a player would have to use the 6DOF mod, yes? Also, wouldn't it mean that new slots would have to be created for every FW, so that the FM could be changed to provide a nose down attitude? Personally, and this is just MHO, I am very happy with Fucidas' bar mod.

I would like to know what Waggel and others think. I think it would be a bit strange to have only one FW (Waggel's A3) with a nose down attitude.

The only mods I use, other than the Activator and English Career Mod, are Flushyy's Clouds with Waggels 128x128 tga file and the Bar Mod. I don't want to overload my game with mods, just in case it causes any conflicts. Of course, this is all just MHO. What do others think?

Yeah, I agree completely. As it is, the bar mod is far more elegant solution, because basically it has the same effect on playing - it removes TehBar