[Fireskull]

good mornings folks, the reason why so many similar planes all around the world popped up is, because of germany lost the war and so many designers and mechanics were locked up in secret areas of the United States, United Kingdom and the former Soviet Union, were they had to work on projected planes like the Ta 183 and other secret planes.

That had little to do with it. What we see in this phenomenon is a roughly comparable level of aerodynamic understanding. In other words, the same solutions to problems or means to exploit technical advances were being made seperately. Remember that aircraft design in World War Two (or indeed, any other period before the sixties) was competitive, not co-operative. That said the research conducted by Germany did influence aircraft design in the post-1945 era, but bear in mind that although Germany had made some real advances in scientific thinking, they weren't as far ahead of the allies as is commonly believed.

Hi, Caldrail

I have to agree with everything that you wrote here.

Being the nature of the regimes at the time, I would combine three conditions at work:

1) Independent national aircraft development programs arrived at the same general theory conclusions, though at different times-but by the end of World War Two for the most part.

2) There is strong circumstancial evidence for espionage and leaks of advanced programs which contributed to decisions to commit to certain technologies.

3) Luftwaffe development generally affirmed already existing theories in other nations.


Given all these things, it is likely that the technical specifications for the Ta-183 program is sitting in the archives of at least several major world powers and has been so from the middle and late 1940s.

If someone could get at any of this official data, it would help improve the Ta-183 model. That could be a huge task to find it. Did Oleg have access to Russian data on the Ta-183? That seems likely to me.