15.12.2009, 06:31
I make this mod because in-game Ta-183 irritated me by blatant fault in air scheme, especially because it's one of my favourite planes in the game.
It's hard to make obvious error in modelling of such plane, since Ta-183 remained a "paper plane", but game developers managed to do it.
Ta-183 represented in game allegedly have normal air scheme, but it's wrong, despite Ta-183 cited as an example of similarity with MiG-15.
MiG-15 really has normal air scheme, but Ta-183 completely different. Ta-183 is more like "flying wing", as Me-163.
Control surfaces on the outer parts of its wings is not only ailerons for roll control, but also a elevators. In fact, it's a ELEVONS.
Even without knowing the technical data, an attentive observer noticed that, these ailerons ends behind tailpipe.
Small tailplane really is a complementary stabilizer, but small control surfaces on it, in fact, is a trimmer, not an elevator!
It's quite clear, even just by appearance. It's just too small. Whether it's a full stabilizer and elevator, tailfin would not stand such a load, possibly.
By the way, this plane should be able to stay in the air without such tail at all.
In short words, mod fixes control surfaces mechanics and makes some changes in damage model accordingly (also, chassis cover will not ram in flaps and X-4 fins).
U can check mechanic changes by switching to external view and watching, as control surfaces moving, while U moving controls.
U will notice that, "ailerons" moves accordingly "flying wing" air scheme, trimmer controls moves small control surfaces on the tailplane independently.
Now Ta-183 is the only plane in the game, having independently working elevator and trimmer.
DM has some changes in sake of that, loss of parts making adequate impact on the plane flight and control.
This changes do not give obvious advantages, but knowing it will do.
Briefly describing the possible consequences of damage:
if U got controls hit, U will lose roll and pitch control at the same time, but yaw and trimmer control will remained;
if U lose one aileron, U will lose pitch control. Shame, but I am failed to reproduce effect of attempt to control pitch with one remaining aileron,
so roll control with one aileron will be deteriorated, pitch control will just jam;
if U lose both ailerons U will lose roll and pitch control, but still will have rudder and trimmer control.
U can try to turn to base and land safely, although it will be difficult;
losing of one aileron or half of tailplane will produce tendency to bank to respective side, if G is positive, and otherwise, if G is negative;
losing of ailerons also affects respective wing area;
if U lose one of small control surfaces on the tailplane, it will have adequate effect on trimming, if U lose both of them, U lose trimmer;
U can even lose entire tail and still be able to get home in one piece with some luck, as pitch and roll control will be remained.
U will lose some stability, trimmer and rudder, but also lose some air drag a bit.
Stall will be unrecoverable and quickly progressing to flat spin.
Mod has no changes FM, since it looks quite adequate, especially, no real data is possible.
Credits to MrJolly & Lt.Wolf, since mod supposed to be based on gyro-gunsight mod for Ta-183. If based on this mod, my mod adds the automatic rangefinder,
such-like I've made for P-80A: viewtopic.php?t=23153
But it can also work independently, yet without gyro-gunsight & rangefinder feature, of course.
This mod is "new slot", but question is that, can I post it as replacement or fix for default, since it's not changing FM & armament,
or this would be illegal here :?:
You can download this mod here: http://www.filefront.com/15138833/Ta-183AAA.rar
To install mod, unpack the RAR folder to \MODS folder in your IL-2 directory and add this line:
Ta-183AAA air.TA_183_AAA 2 g01 SUMMER
to your air.ini file, located, probably in \MODS\STD\com\maddox\il2\objects folder inside your IL-2 directory.
Somebody just had to do it. So, what you say ?
It's hard to make obvious error in modelling of such plane, since Ta-183 remained a "paper plane", but game developers managed to do it.
Ta-183 represented in game allegedly have normal air scheme, but it's wrong, despite Ta-183 cited as an example of similarity with MiG-15.
MiG-15 really has normal air scheme, but Ta-183 completely different. Ta-183 is more like "flying wing", as Me-163.
Control surfaces on the outer parts of its wings is not only ailerons for roll control, but also a elevators. In fact, it's a ELEVONS.
Even without knowing the technical data, an attentive observer noticed that, these ailerons ends behind tailpipe.
Small tailplane really is a complementary stabilizer, but small control surfaces on it, in fact, is a trimmer, not an elevator!
It's quite clear, even just by appearance. It's just too small. Whether it's a full stabilizer and elevator, tailfin would not stand such a load, possibly.
By the way, this plane should be able to stay in the air without such tail at all.
In short words, mod fixes control surfaces mechanics and makes some changes in damage model accordingly (also, chassis cover will not ram in flaps and X-4 fins).
U can check mechanic changes by switching to external view and watching, as control surfaces moving, while U moving controls.
U will notice that, "ailerons" moves accordingly "flying wing" air scheme, trimmer controls moves small control surfaces on the tailplane independently.
Now Ta-183 is the only plane in the game, having independently working elevator and trimmer.
DM has some changes in sake of that, loss of parts making adequate impact on the plane flight and control.
This changes do not give obvious advantages, but knowing it will do.
Briefly describing the possible consequences of damage:
if U got controls hit, U will lose roll and pitch control at the same time, but yaw and trimmer control will remained;
if U lose one aileron, U will lose pitch control. Shame, but I am failed to reproduce effect of attempt to control pitch with one remaining aileron,
so roll control with one aileron will be deteriorated, pitch control will just jam;
if U lose both ailerons U will lose roll and pitch control, but still will have rudder and trimmer control.
U can try to turn to base and land safely, although it will be difficult;
losing of one aileron or half of tailplane will produce tendency to bank to respective side, if G is positive, and otherwise, if G is negative;
losing of ailerons also affects respective wing area;
if U lose one of small control surfaces on the tailplane, it will have adequate effect on trimming, if U lose both of them, U lose trimmer;
U can even lose entire tail and still be able to get home in one piece with some luck, as pitch and roll control will be remained.
U will lose some stability, trimmer and rudder, but also lose some air drag a bit.
Stall will be unrecoverable and quickly progressing to flat spin.
Mod has no changes FM, since it looks quite adequate, especially, no real data is possible.
Credits to MrJolly & Lt.Wolf, since mod supposed to be based on gyro-gunsight mod for Ta-183. If based on this mod, my mod adds the automatic rangefinder,
such-like I've made for P-80A: viewtopic.php?t=23153
But it can also work independently, yet without gyro-gunsight & rangefinder feature, of course.
This mod is "new slot", but question is that, can I post it as replacement or fix for default, since it's not changing FM & armament,
or this would be illegal here :?:
You can download this mod here: http://www.filefront.com/15138833/Ta-183AAA.rar
To install mod, unpack the RAR folder to \MODS folder in your IL-2 directory and add this line:
Ta-183AAA air.TA_183_AAA 2 g01 SUMMER
to your air.ini file, located, probably in \MODS\STD\com\maddox\il2\objects folder inside your IL-2 directory.
Somebody just had to do it. So, what you say ?