[stoneyvmf214]

granted, i don't watch dogfights anymore cuz the show has gotten a bit redundant in what it talks about. "he is here...the 109 is here....if he turns to the left he'll shoot him down, if he turns to the right the 109 will shoot him down".

JUST SHOOT THE BUGGER DOWN! :roll:

LOL, so true, the one about Randall Cunningham in the F-4J Showtime 100 taking on an ace of the NVAF in his Mig-17 is an EPIC dogfight tho. Vertical Siccors is a crazy way to fight a bad guy, and the thrust to weight ratio of those aircraft made it possible. Really good episode that one is, if you haven't seen it and get the chance, I highly recommend it!

It's to bad "The Duke" is in prison. The USN's Last ACE

To bad Duke "here is my bribe list" Cunningham's idea of the government came out of the Gilded Age. Considering how ethically challenged Cunningham is how serious do you want to take his claims of shooting down a Vietnamese fighter ace?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyen_Toon

When that ace never existed.

Oh boy Here we go!! The Duke definatley screwed the pooch but He is still an Ace! And probably the last!! Now whether it was Col. Toon Who really cares!! He still got 5 confirmed kills!!